Posted on Apr 26, 2016
CPT Air Defense Artillery Officer
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Capt Tom Brown
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CPT (Join to see) I believe that you should report this concern to school administrators and ROTC COC as soon as possible as this sort of behavior violates about every rule of conduct known. Others on RP may be able to suggest exactly who to go to in more details but pls don't hesitate too much longer to do the right thing on this one.
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Thank you for your comment sir. I know they think they're not hurting anything by it because they'er both consenting adults and they think no one knows about it, but the other cadets, 1st and 2nd years, are realizing what's going on, and the way they're viewing the cadre is changing. I can see it.
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CPT Mark Gonzalez
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You are honor bound to report it. If there is nothing to it, a more senior authority will make that decision. The NCO absolutely knows better and there are plenty of girls on campus or locally he could date. He is making a conscious choice to do the wrong thing and you have to do the right thing. If after review you feel that you cannot report the incident, I would honesty tell you that you shouldn't be an officer as you have to possess the personal/moral courage to do what is right even when conflicted.
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Thank you sir. It was eating at me all day yesterday because I knew it was wrong, but I wasn't entirely sure what to do about it. I crafted this email and tried to be as professional as possible. I sent it to our Cadet Battalion Commander so I'm not jumping the chain straight to our Lt Col. I redacted all of the names of course because it's all here say until proven. The response I got was a thank you, it really shows integrity, they already know about it, and decisions are being made by out Lt Col. about what actions are to be taken. So it's already being handled, but by telling them I was really just letting them know that there isn't a lid on the situation.

"Good morning. There's something going on that you as Battalion Commander need to be made aware of and that I am honor bound to report. Whether true or not, there is what I am hoping is just a rumor going around that CDT ****** and "CADRE" are romantically involved. CDT ****** went to CDT ****** saying that her friend was involved with a cadre and didn't know what to do about it. CDT ****** told me this when I rode with him yesterday after class. He told me that CDT ****** was very uncomfortable when talking to him about it. Those are just the two people who I know that know about it, and it's already creating an uncomfortable training environment. Also, you know how rumor mills work. ****** told ****** who told me, and I don't know how many other people they may have told so you may as well assume quite a few people have heard it.

This is not an easy thing to report because I have nothing against either of them, but if this is true, then it either needs to be squashed or handled the right way before it spins out of control. All it takes is a single moment of spite to possibly ruin both of their careers. Also, cadre are in a position of trust. The power held over the cadet makes it impossible to gain consent for a sexual relationship. This in no way aligns with the Army values.

It goes against TRADOC and the following army policies.

AR 600-20
4–15. Other prohibited relationships
c. Training commands. Training commands (for example, TRADOC and AMEDDC) and the U.S. Army Recruiting Command are authorized to publish supplemental regulations to paragraph 4–15, which further detail proscribed conduct within their respective commands.

AR 600-20
4-16. Fraternization
Violations of paragraphs 4–14b, 4–14c, and 4–15 may be punished under UCMJ, Art. 92 as a violation of a lawful general regulation.

TRADOC 350-36
4-3. Training Abuse and Prohibited Practices.
a. Training abuse is any improper or unlawful physical, verbal, or sexual act committedagainst a student. Examples include extreme exercise-based corrective action not IAW PRT,extreme profanity, sexual misconduct, extortion, hazing, inappropriate fundraising, or prohibited relationships. Only a commander can determine an incident as student abuse.
c. Sexual Harassment, fraternization, inappropriate or unprofessional relationships. This conduct is explicitly forbidden IAW AR 600-20 and may violate local regulations. These offenses are contrary to the principles of the Army Profession and are punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

UCMJ, Article 134 par 3.
"Conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces (clause 2). “Discredit” means to injure the reputation of. This clause of Article 134 makes punishable conduct which has a tendency to bring the service into disrepute or which tends to lower it in public esteem."

Also, as a commander, you have some responsibility as well, and if anything bad comes from it, then Lt Col. ****** could also be help partially responsible since it's under his command.
AR 600-20
4–19. Treatment of persons
c. Command responsibilities.
(1) Enforcement of this policy is the responsibility of commanders and supervisors at all levels.

Integrity.
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CPT Mark Gonzalez
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Go see him in person don't send this email if not already sent. You don't have to break the situation down so much as LTC fully understands the rules regarding fraternization. After your conversation you can come back and do an mfr document on what was said for your record.
If due to geography you cannot see him in person and it needs be sent via email that is fine, but take out all the reference material as he doesn't need it and it is almost insulting his intelligence. Also if you have more info give more info. Don't withhold it.
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Cadet 4th Class In - Flight Refueling
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It is fraternization regardless of the cadres rank and grade . Report up your chain of command
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