Posted on Nov 13, 2015
Has anyone heard of or gotten Stellate Ganglion Block injection?
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I know there are a lot of us on here with various levels of PTSD. I was told by a friend about this shot and how it's being given at Walter Reed Hospital. I'm reading on it, and it sounds promising, but I've heard so many things that are 100% defines and "will work" come to find out they don't. So I'm asking you Rally Point, have YOU heard about this or have done it?
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What is a stellate ganglion block?
A stellate ganglion block is an injection of local anesthetic in the sympathetic nerve tissue of the neck. These nerves are a part of the sympathetic nervous system. The nerves are located on either side of the voice box, in the neck.
What is the purpose of a stellate ganglion block?
A stellate ganglion block blocks the sympathetic nerves that go to the arms, and, to some degree, the sympathetic nerves that go to the face. This may in turn reduce pain, swelling, color and sweating changes in the upper extremity and may improve mobility. It is done as a part of the treatment of Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD), Sympathetic Maintained Pain, Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and Herpes Zoster (shingles) involving an arm or the head and face.
http://www.medcentral.org/Main/StellateGanglionBlock.aspx
A stellate ganglion block is an injection of local anesthetic in the sympathetic nerve tissue of the neck. These nerves are a part of the sympathetic nervous system. The nerves are located on either side of the voice box, in the neck.
What is the purpose of a stellate ganglion block?
A stellate ganglion block blocks the sympathetic nerves that go to the arms, and, to some degree, the sympathetic nerves that go to the face. This may in turn reduce pain, swelling, color and sweating changes in the upper extremity and may improve mobility. It is done as a part of the treatment of Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD), Sympathetic Maintained Pain, Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and Herpes Zoster (shingles) involving an arm or the head and face.
http://www.medcentral.org/Main/StellateGanglionBlock.aspx
Stellate Ganglion Block | MedCentral Health System
What is a stellate ganglion block?A stellate ganglion block is an injection of local anesthetic in the sympathetic nerve tissue of the neck. These nerves are a part of the sympathetic nervous system. The nerves are located on either side of the voice box, in the neck.
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SSG Warren Swan
I just don't see how it works with PTSD. I know many medicines have secondary effects that aren't always known up from Seroquil being one, but my ears perk up when I hear something that could be a "wonder drug" or "super cure". And RP is the one place where I know vets will tell you the honest truth on certain things that help or hurt the community.
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SSG Warren Swan
After you posted this it perked my ears so I looked it up. And I agree with you, really not sure how this is supposed to work or help those suffering from PTSD. I think I would have to see more evidence that it works before I would even risk trying it. I also didn't like the possible side affects.
After you posted this it perked my ears so I looked it up. And I agree with you, really not sure how this is supposed to work or help those suffering from PTSD. I think I would have to see more evidence that it works before I would even risk trying it. I also didn't like the possible side affects.
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SSG Warren Swan
MSgt (Join to see) - Chief posted a link below and it's all bunk. No clear link. Honestly it was a bit disappointing. But I hate needles with a passion, so I'm glad he posted it before I asked for a ton of needless pain.
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SGB was researched at the Naval Hospital in San Diego. Here are the results:
http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/ptsd-trauma-and-stressor-related/stellate-ganglion-block-fails-as-possible-ptsd-treatment/article/406455/
http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/ptsd-trauma-and-stressor-related/stellate-ganglion-block-fails-as-possible-ptsd-treatment/article/406455/
Stellate Ganglion Block Fails as Possible PTSD Treatment
However, patients that received a second SGB injection saw more improvement in symptoms compared with those given placebo injection.
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SSG Warren Swan
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS - I've heard of this before! This is something along with the needles that would seriously scare the hell out of me. I'd be interested in following up on this to see how the long term effects work on vets. But taking X? Wow.....
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
SSG Warren Swan - Check out the post I just put up about the DEA approving clinical trials of MDMA to treat PTSD...
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
'The main problem with the drug war is the concept that there are good drugs and bad drugs," when what's actually good or bad "is the relationship between the person and the drug, and the context in which the drug is taken," says the MAP maven.
For instance, naysayers can claim "that MDMA is a drug of abuse and since people with PTSD have a high incidence of drug abuse, they shouldn't be given MDMA. But people with PTSD have a high incidence of drug abuse because they haven't been able to deal with painful emotions that they abuse drugs to escape." If those emotions could be processed via MDMA therapy, "their drive to abuse drugs would be reduced. We want to clarify that drugs of abuse can be used well. But the government is still too wedded to the drug war."
In that regard, the Bush-to-Obama handover "didn't really change things at all. We had hoped it would."
For instance, naysayers can claim "that MDMA is a drug of abuse and since people with PTSD have a high incidence of drug abuse, they shouldn't be given MDMA. But people with PTSD have a high incidence of drug abuse because they haven't been able to deal with painful emotions that they abuse drugs to escape." If those emotions could be processed via MDMA therapy, "their drive to abuse drugs would be reduced. We want to clarify that drugs of abuse can be used well. But the government is still too wedded to the drug war."
In that regard, the Bush-to-Obama handover "didn't really change things at all. We had hoped it would."
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SSG Warren Swan
No arguments here Staff. I've gone through all the normal ones, and none have worked, with electrolysis and yoga being the weirdest. Immersion therapy was the hardest. I refuse to use the weed route. I've talked to a few who swear by it, but VA has told me face to face, I'd loose benefits if I get caught, so a toke isn't worth it to me.
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I totally agree. I know weed works for many, but to put your benefits on the line... not a good roll of the dice. We can just hope something that really works comes along in the near future.
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