Posted on Feb 29, 2016
Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
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Real Cost of Cyber Crime

Cyber crime is a type of of crime that not only destroys the security system of a country but also its financial system. One supporter of legislation against cyber crime, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), stated, "Our mouse can be just as dangerous as a bullet or a bomb." Cyber attackers should be penalized and punished severely and most cyber crimes have penalties reflecting t
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Capt Richard I P.
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I do not think the government is sufficiently competent to justly impose death penalties for any crime.
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Historically there is little correlation between punishment and the crime. Unless they are watching live child porn no cyber crime is violent or bad enough to merit death. Increase in the fines and loosening the restrictions about fining the personal incomes of the individuals involved yes.
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
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there are several other conditions that Could cause direct physical damage... Independent to the means (cyber space) it must be treated as actual crime.
Human trafficking, abuse of minors, organ trafficking's are grave indeed yet there are more serious crimes out there and honestly having the death penalty as an option would be extremely helpful.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D - You could also impose capital punishment for minor crimes, like speeding, and I bet it there will be a correlation in a decrease of speeding. Referencing a statistical correlation in crime is not enough of a logical argument in my view to justify killing somebody. If you have a different argument to make, then that would be more appropriate.
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
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Well, I was not trying to be entertaining rather I intended to draw attention to serious existing threats.. Such as cyber terrorism, Organized crimes in Child exploitations, Human and organ trafficking.. Unfortunately we do not have sufficient legislations addressing these issues and we see exponential rise in cybercrimes on monthly bases..I will be delighted forwarding you census data on these.. Cyber space must not provide sanctuary to major crimes and felonies... Do not tell me they are not serious enough Private and we shall compare them to speeding...
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Capital Punishment should be reserved for "removing monsters from society permanently."

People who commit crimes so vile that we can never put them back in society and their very existence threatens it.

The issue with lumping cyber crimes into that class is that we must ask ourselves "Will giving the Government (Justice System) this tool benefit society? Can they be trusted to use it correctly?"

As it stands, I have a very hard time justifying access to this tool, even though I believe it should exist. I would be hard pressed to expand its use into non-violent areas.
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
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I have got to disagree with you.. Let me explain... If you orchestrate a major crime even if you are not the person committing it personally, you could get subjected to Capital Punishment. Why should it be any different if you are using the cyber space?

Capital Punishment for major cybercrimes already exist in several countries. And , here is the surprising factor the rater of cyber crime started dropping significantly after the legislation was put in place.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D - How much do you trust the Government to get it right? How many people have been sent to jail for crimes they didn't commit, or forced to plea for charges because the government has escalated?

You can't undo the death penalty. And our government has been show to be untrustworthy its current arsenal of tools.
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
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Well, it is true, we can not undo the death. but I do not think we could place the blame square on the government.. Juris tend to come to verdict and they are composed of civilians.. If governments get to decide they usually put the defendant on military court and get them shot on spot.. So it is unfair to blame the government for short comings in human nature (reliance on emotion and lack of logic!!)

Yet again one has to keep in mind major cybercrimes could lead to life loss.... And 20th century legislations are not fit for 21st century crimes. Cyber criminals are not punished severely enough and that leads to escalation of the crime. Perhaps Life sentence in absolute solitary with no access to any technology would do.. Guess they would suffer more...
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D - I'm not blaming the government. I'm pointing out realities of the situation. No system is perfect, but we must weigh the risk of "worst case" when looking at all systems. In your proposal, innocent people die. Furthermore, non-violent criminals die because you believe them to be on the same level as "monsters." We already have laws to address people commit "capital crimes." Expanding that definition into non-violent offenses opens the floodgates and makes the system more error prone, not less.

As for your assertion that "cyber criminals are not punished enough" I'd tend to disagree. We throw the book at them. We just don't kill them. Nor should we. Nor should we lock ANYONE in solitary for life. That serves no purpose other than revenge, which is a far cry from Justice.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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The death penalty should only be used for crimes in which the perpetrator willfully causes the death of a person. If the cyber crime purposely causes or substantially contributes the cause of death of a person, I would be OK with seeking the death penalty and allowing a jury to decide if that punishment fits the crime. Other than that.. No.
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D
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John, unfortunately cybercrime has a potential of mass physical damage... It is unfortunate but the potential is there...
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
COL Jean (John) F. B.
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Gayane Badalian-Very MD. Ph.D - I certainly understand that, however, unless that "physical damage" directly contributes to or causes a loss of life, the crime does not warrant the death penalty. That does not mean that the perpetrator should not spend the rest of his/her life in prison.
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1SG John Millan
1SG John Millan
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worked a number of child victim cases as a detective, before I was a chief and I firmly believe raping a child should be a DP bounce.
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