Posted on Jul 8, 2014
DeAngelo Williams - Good Initiative, Bad Judgement
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Kudos to DeAngelo Williams for giving up his Business Class seat for this 'Marine'!
Another case of Stolen Valor!
http://guardianofvalor.com/deangelo-williams-carolina-panthers-running-back-duped-fake-marine/
Another case of Stolen Valor!
http://guardianofvalor.com/deangelo-williams-carolina-panthers-running-back-duped-fake-marine/
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I contacted TSA through official channels about a year ago suggesting that if a person appears in military dress, and cannot produce a military ID (edited from "CAC" I really meant just some form of military ID), he/she must NOT be allowed to pass through security. If I showed up at the airport in a TSA uniform and had no TSA credentials, would I be allowed to wander around the airport dressed like that? How is that not a security concern? I got no response.
Additionally, Soldiers are generally NOT authorized to wear uniforms to the airport (edited to add: because they are not flying on orders; I had a Soldier tell me once he had "leave orders," um, not official military business there, but nice try. Yes, per LTC Paul Labrador the ASU is authorized, but only on official travel). The latest version of 670-1 makes it more clear. I really wish the airlines would stop being complicit in this. If I show you military ID (<- not edited, got it right the first time and it's what I always meant), good enough; stop insisting I be in uniform. It would also stop clowns like this guy by removing the incentives to masquerade.
Additionally, Soldiers are generally NOT authorized to wear uniforms to the airport (edited to add: because they are not flying on orders; I had a Soldier tell me once he had "leave orders," um, not official military business there, but nice try. Yes, per LTC Paul Labrador the ASU is authorized, but only on official travel). The latest version of 670-1 makes it more clear. I really wish the airlines would stop being complicit in this. If I show you military ID (<- not edited, got it right the first time and it's what I always meant), good enough; stop insisting I be in uniform. It would also stop clowns like this guy by removing the incentives to masquerade.
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SFC Mark Merino
CPT (Join to see) your idea is genius. No air travelling without military ID authorized (unless something has changed)
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PO1 (Join to see)
Miss, your comment is compelling. Under the current Navy instruction the dress and service uniform is authorized. I am unsure about other Branches of Service, but the CAC is a part of the uniform.
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CPT (Join to see)
PO1 (Join to see), I do still see Navy personnel in uniform. But the point is, if you show up in military uniform and you try to go through security, you should be REQUIRED to show military ID. If you cannot, you should be turned away. The CAC is part of the uniform for Army, so if that is true for Navy, this is not a big deal and would be virtually transparent to real service personnel.
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Cpl (Join to see)
Left breast pocket. Same place it should be for our inspections. I agree though, traveling on airlines is a pain because yes the order states that Marines are allowed to travel in dress uniforms except our Blues Alphas (which are authorized only on special occasions such as the ball) but it is said traveling in uniform is a risk due to sky jacking or terrorist attacks. The personnel sticks out to the perpetrator. But the case stands, No military ID then NO uniform.
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OMG!!! WTF!!! My brain just exploded. Nasty little thing this man is. He is jacked up all over the place. Weird devices on the medals, wearing devices not authorized in that configuration, wrong buckle, belts jacked, cover indoors but since he is wearing a cover those gloves should be on too, and nobody travels in dress blue alphas (which he is wearing a combo of alphas and bravos) because its not authorized. Yuck!
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SSG (Join to see)
GySgt (Join to see) i despise these violations myself! We need a new term for these stolen valor fake ____(i will not give them the honor of calling them Marines). I think the new term should be MaWheenies
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1SG Michael Blount
What bothers me about situations like this is it becomes impossible for the general public to tell the real heroes deserving respect and the thanks from their country from the fakes, wannabees and imposters
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Bad judgement?
How can we expect a non military member to see and immediately identify a case of "Stolen Valor"?
How can we expect a non military member to see and immediately identify a case of "Stolen Valor"?
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SGM Matthew Quick
SFC Gilley, it's just a catchy title...DeAngelo Williams did a great thing.
I would never expect a non-military member to know the difference or spot an impostor.
I would never expect a non-military member to know the difference or spot an impostor.
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1SG (Join to see)
I agree SGM Matthew Quick. The title just made me believe that you thought he made a bad decision due to his "bad judgement".
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SGM Matthew Quick
Not at all...I was actually really impressed by the way DeAngelo Williams publicized the gesture; and how he's handling the public backlash for publicizing it.
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SGT Ben Keen
I agree with 1SG (Join to see) on the point that we can't expect civilians to be able to point out "Stolen Valor". That is why we must police our own. Either way, I join SGM Matthew Quick in recognizing the way DeAngelo is handling the situation.
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