Posted on Oct 5, 2016
SGT Sr Satcom Systems Operator/Maintainer
366K
1.8K
551
94
94
0
First off, wow kinda surprised this generated any response at all. I was looking more for a "oh hey, just do this memorandum and it's all done." kind of a deal. Anyways as for context, awards here go through about 15 or more corrections for non-grammatical issues. The award hasn't been written yet and I would probably end up writing it anyways. I just don't want to waste anyone's time or my own for that matter with writing an award that a civilian company cares not a whit about that just going to get kicked back over and over and over. I know what I have done and I honestly don't care much for recognition. I'd rather see some of my Soldiers get credited as they go on to do bigger and better things. Do I also have other motivations for not wanting an award yes because there have been several things that have left a bad taste, but I didn't post this to air my dirty laundry, I was just simply looking for advice. Thanks all for the numerous replies. Most were pretty entertaining, and a few were even helpful.
Posted in these groups: Us medals AwardsMilitary discharge 300x201 ETS/EASCollege advice Advice
Edited >1 y ago
Avatar feed
Responses: 350
MSG Intermediate Care Technician
306
306
0
Oh, this needs to have a story time to enlighten us as to what is up. But to answer your question, there are many routes you can take. You can do the extreme direct approach and not walk up to the Commander when called. Or, you can walk up and THEN tell the CDR to their face you don't want it. You could walk into your 1SGs office and state your case. Or, you could run the request up through your TL/SL/PSG and have them relay that request to your 1SG. OR.....and just hear me out.....you could simply take the award when it's presented.....ya know, be that NCO that sets the example....then about face and drive on with your life. Because in the end, if you take any of the options that were listed prior to the just taking the award and moving out, then you could set the bad example to the rest of the Soldiers (especially the Junior Enlisted) within the unit which could then in turn create even more issues within the unit in regards to morale and discipline. I would gather that you have a rather bad taste in your mouth for your unit and probably the Army as a whole, but remember this.....until that ETS date rolls around, you are still in the Army and you are an NCO. Operate as an NCO.
(306)
Comment
(0)
LCpl David Wood
LCpl David Wood
>1 y
Well said Sir!
(0)
Reply
(0)
Cpl Vic Eizenga
Cpl Vic Eizenga
7 y
you will have to excuse this dumb old Marine but I even had to look up an ETA Award. When my enlistment was up in 1968 I was just happy to get my DD214 and left North Carolina as fast as I could. NO one I know ever got an ETS award.
(2)
Reply
(0)
MSG Intermediate Care Technician
MSG (Join to see)
7 y
Cpl Vic Eizenga - I didn't get one the first time I ETS'd either. Nor have I ever received a PCS award. Such is life.
(0)
Reply
(0)
Cpl Vic Eizenga
Cpl Vic Eizenga
7 y
MSG (Join to see) - changed duty station 4 times 3 times I did not even have the paper work until later. In Vietnam Fox 2nd Battalion 7th Marines became Hotel 2nd Battalion 1st Marines,. When I left Vietnam June 1966 from the 1st Marines. The Platoon Commander said drop everything go get on that chopper and flew to Danang. When we Got to Da Nang there was a plane with new troops getting off and I was told to go and get on that plane. I was in Okinawa 2 weeks before I got any paper work to go home.
(1)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
CPL Wilfred Roberge
184
184
0
Edited >1 y ago
Hmm....
I would say "Suck it up and take the award, you may not appreciate the award right now BUT you or your children might some day in the future."
My father passed away when I was 11 and served in the Army some 20 years prior to my birth in a time (1950's Germany) when all you could basically get for awards for service were for acts of Heroism or a Good Conduct Medal. To commemorate his short military career all we have is a few pictures and a DD214 (with the awards block blank). Based on the DD214 and some second hand info from my mom all I basically know is his MOS and his UNIT. I do not even know which MOS was his primary and which was his secondary, I just know, he made it to SP4, and had been to Fort Dix for Basic, then Engineer School @ Fort Belvoir for "Engineer Equipment Repairer" and then Aberdeen Proving Grounds for "Welder Blacksmith School." then sent to his unit in West Germany. He was discharged from Active Duty just shy of 3 years "because of transportation back to the United States" (re that is when his troop ship sailed, it was serve maybe another 3 to 6 months on active duty OR get discharged "early") An ETS award probably would have told me a lot more than I was able to figure out about him from the DD214, more such as exactly what he did in his unit (an "Engineer Detachment") or what his detachment did. Did he just fix the machines of did he ever get to operate them? (He ended up as a civillian Operating Engineer in the International Union of Operating Engineers) was he good at his job or really good or just average? Was he a squad leader? When they went to the range did he consistently qualify on his assigned weapon? Sometimes ETS awards I have seen include all of this stuff and it tells the family a story. I wish I knew more about my dad' short Army Career, don't let your children be left scratching their heads because you refused an award. I am currently sending away for his Cold War Service Certificate.
Don't let an award slip through your fingers when you could have had one, it will be something not just for you but for your family. It will be something for future generations to record your history.
(184)
Comment
(0)
PO3 Ron Whitton
PO3 Ron Whitton
>1 y
I say accept it for your family, my children are more proud of my Viet Nam service than I am.
(2)
Reply
(0)
PFC Petroleum Supply Specialist
PFC (Join to see)
>1 y
I think everyone's comments and opinions are great and make sense in some way shape or form. However, without knowing the individual and their life or struggles it is very easy for everyone to say what he should have done. We all might be looking in from the outside and think his decision was a mistake or disrespectful or even immature but if he can live with it and has no regrets then drive on. One team one fight
(0)
Reply
(0)
SGM Leon Peck
SGM Leon Peck
>1 y
You are in a military formation and still subject to the UCMJ. When called, you Post and come to attention and accept the award. When dismissed, you fall back into formation. If you try the "direct" approach, you are being insubordinate and can receive an Article 14 and loss of a stripe and possible forfeiture of pay or confinement to the barracks. After you are discharged, you can throw the award in the trash. But, you do not have the right to refuse the award or a direct order until you are out.
(0)
Reply
(0)
CPT Rick Varner
CPT Rick Varner
7 y
Try the military personnel center records repository in St Louis? Don't remember official name or contact info...
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
SFC Dave Mccain
148
148
0
****warning.....this is horrible advice******
get flagged...

****this is good advice******
write yourself a nice little AAM. Steal the format from a recently approved one, and say thank you to those you served with.
The award is not really for you. The award is for your family and future grandchildren to look back on and be proud of you. Don't take that away from them.
(148)
Comment
(0)
SSG Communications (S6)
SSG (Join to see)
>1 y
Congratulations you are among the lucky few.SPC Kenny Cooley -
(0)
Reply
(0)
CPT Joseph Martin
CPT Joseph Martin
>1 y
That's shitty
(0)
Reply
(0)
PFC Human Resources Specialist
PFC (Join to see)
>1 y
Yeah don't get flagged that can cause problems with your ETS. Just copy a format from a previous one, ask for an example from S1, and just change your name, Unit, etc... That last F.U. isn't worth it.
(0)
Reply
(0)
SFC Frank DeJulius
SFC Frank DeJulius
>1 y
Agree. You'll look back in your dotage and smile.
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close