Posted on Oct 6, 2016
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I am in my Junior year of my undergraduate in Interntational Politics. My intent is to complete my undergrad, and pursue a Master's in Community and Economic Development. I have continued to do market research as I am completing my degree, and am starting to wonder, When is the appropriate time to apply for jobs. There are several perfectly suited jobs available now, but they want the master's.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
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Please note what you said. You are finishing your undergrad but they want a masters... i'm thinking they want a masters. Have you considered internships (paid or otherwise)?
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I've considered internships, but have had little luck finding anything. I chose instead to pursue volunteer work that I could use to create a portfolio and build my resume. I took on a volunteer position with my city's fire department, where I was quickly promoted to Treasury Secretary after obtaining the city a substantial $120k grant for the acquisition of new personal protective equipment, I digitized and organized a highly disorganized and outdated system of record keeping, and I am currently working on writing another grant request for the department to obtain for them a $300k grant to replace our Tanker, as well as a grant for the city to rebuild a 100 year old playground. Keep in mind, the "town" I live in, has a population of about 300 people, and the equipment that had been in use by the Fire Department was over 30 years old. I felt that roles like this, and potentially a city council role in the future would lay the groundwork for detailed accomplishments that would be hard to come by with internships meant for 18 year-olds with no life experience, but that plan involved putting off the application process for a few more years, which gave me time to complete my masters.
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Volunteerism is a good resume' enhancement... but doesn't pay much :-) ... look at non-profits. From time to time they have openings. They do n't pay much but they give out REALLY IMPRESSIVE SOUNDING job titles in lieu of pay... long hours, shitty jobs... but fiil space on the resume'
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CAPT Kevin B.
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What's getting lost in this discussion is the notion of "responsiveness" to an announcement. If you don't have the pedigree, you're nonresponsive. They are looking to fill now, not 1 1/2 years from now. If you're early, you want to be no more than 6 months early with an available date in your resume. Then you're hoping the candidates they have are crap and maybe they'll lower the bar. I was a hiring manager on the Fed side for years and the HR staff weeds out the nonresponsive stuff before it hits anyone's desk who might care. Larger local governments do that as well. I disagree with the early and often comment. Managers that get repetitively hit with nonresponsive stuff with the same name attached are more likely to get annoyed and label that person as clueless. Not good.
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Thanks CAPT Kevin B., those were some of my concerns. I had several people using the "what's the harm, worst case scenario they don't hire you" line out there, but I was concerned on how it would impact my reputation. I'm not so concerned about that, because I am looking to move when I do finish my schooling (or before if I got hired) so I am not likely to apply to the same position twice, but I still would prefer not to have a reputation that gets my resume tossed before anyone sees it. I'm also a bit unsure about what height to shoot for. When I finish my degree, I will be 31 years-old with a BA in International Politics and a Master's in Community and Economic Development, with 9 years as a Civil Affairs Specialist in the USAR. Other than that, I have several short-term roles like a volunteer state coordinator for a presidential superpac and a very successful stint as a Treasury Secretary for the local fire department, but other than that, I have very little in the field of ACTUAL experience in the job. I would like to think that with the education (and not being 21) I would be able to shoot for a higher level position off the bat, in a smaller town, but is that being unrealistic?
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I would still try to develop some sort of work History connect with Your career goals to supplement the education and make You more marketable than a person that has only the degree. In hte long run You resume may get more attention than someone that hasn't added the work credentials.
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