Posted on Jan 4, 2017
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So do you believe the militaries "protected class" policy is detrimental to the services? Especially now that there is such a push to put women in combat.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
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What exactly is/are this protective class you are speaking of? I remember way back when the "protective class" was supposedly the ring knockers from the service academies who were given the better assignments and had miscues covered up or overlooked so they would have a god career.
From the tone of the post I'm guessing that it's something that many old timers may feel, that gender, race, ethnicity, religion and sexual orientation may play a part in commanders being hesitant to discipline service members or pass them over for promotion due to concern over being pegged as a racist, misogynist, homophobe or Islamophobe.
Since Trump's election there has also been a great concern among these same groups of people that it's going to be "open season" on them.
I think its a huge can of worms, and I just hope it will be as should be, the most capable people getting the awards, promotion and retention.
I feel that no matter what there will be those who are prejudiced who will screw over capable people due to their own bigotry, and also a number of those who are substandard performers who will throw the SJW card when they don't get an outcome they desire.
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Good points, 1stSgt Eugene Harless . I concur.
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Maj John Bell
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As USNA grad, I get a kick out of the claim that Academy Grads get some special benefit.

In 11 years, I never had an academy grad as my reporting senior and only once had an academy grad as my reviewing officer.

I never had a fellow USNA grad go out of his way to form some sort of social link and I had plenty of non-academy grads make it "very" clear from the start that my commissioning source was a problem as far as they were concerned.

I had two plum assignments; barracks duty and embassy duty. When I asked my monitor why I got them, he said I was the only one that put them down as my duty preference on a FitRep. Everyone else they placed in those billets, in my cycle, they had to go reach out since they were considered high risk career ending voluntary assignments.

At least in the Marine Corps there was NO CAREER ADVANTAGE to bringing up the Academy and SOME SOCIAL RISK.
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SFC George Smith
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I have never heard of a Protected Class...
there was Combat ... guy who got down dirty and shot...
Combat support... those who passed beans and Bullets and took the grunts into harms way...
Combat service support... those who fixed the Grunts and what the Grunts Broke and the machines the Combat support got AFU...
The only ones I remember as protected were the Folks in the Nose Bleed sections and the ones who Prayed ... "Twinkle Twinkle little Shield, keep me off the Battle field"...
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i'll take that one to my grave well said
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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I am unaware of a protected class.
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