Posted on Nov 23, 2013
35L MOS: Has anyone recently re-classed to 35L?
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I have submitted my re-class packet and currently waiting to hear back on whether I was accepted or not. I was wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the 35L MOS, schooling, assignments, etc.
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</font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Congrats on the submission of a CI packet. I truly hope you
are selected. I myself recently re-classed approximately 1 ½ years ago. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As a former 35F (Intel Analyst), I do believe
it was the best career decision I’ve made since enlisting.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>35L is truly a very unique MOS. Many guys who
choose to re-class, do so under the premise of being a part of some spy v spy
action as suggested by MSG Stankovich. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">“I
was there during MSG Stankovich’s tenure as 1SG. I enjoyed his safety briefs.”</i>
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> I do strongly agree with him that most of your time as an agent will involve report writing. Nevertheless, d</span>epending on where you’re stationed, you’ll
have an opportunity to attend some amazing schools, giving you a chance to
refine your craft. I myself am assigned to the 513</font><sup><font size="2">th</font></sup><font size="3"> MI Brigade, an
outstanding organization for a new agent. </font></font></font></p><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">
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</font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Congrats on the submission of a CI packet. I truly hope you
are selected. I myself recently re-classed approximately 1 ½ years ago. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As a former 35F (Intel Analyst), I do believe
it was the best career decision I’ve made since enlisting.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>35L is truly a very unique MOS. Many guys who
choose to re-class, do so under the premise of being a part of some spy v spy
action as suggested by MSG Stankovich. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">“I
was there during MSG Stankovich’s tenure as 1SG. I enjoyed his safety briefs.”</i>
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> I do strongly agree with him that most of your time as an agent will involve report writing. Nevertheless, d</span>epending on where you’re stationed, you’ll
have an opportunity to attend some amazing schools, giving you a chance to
refine your craft. I myself am assigned to the 513</font><sup><font size="2">th</font></sup><font size="3"> MI Brigade, an
outstanding organization for a new agent. </font></font></font></p><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">
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SFC Im not the person that asked this question but I am in the process of reclassification from 19d Your response was great for me as well. I just got my TS and am waiting on a school date. How is the transition from combat arms and is there anything I can study to prepare? SGT Hernandez, Fort Carson.
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I unable to comment on the transition from Combat Arms to MI, as I was never a Combat Arms soldier. Nevertheless, the few Combat Arms guys I've know to have transitioned to MI, have had nothing but great things to say. The CISAC page on IKN has a list of recommended reading material. Strongly suggest you take a look. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to assist.
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Funny story for you SFC Gates...when I was 1SG back there I used to tell the students that you guys ain't gonna be Jason Bourne. You'll be writing more reports and giving more TARP/TESS briefs than you will be out there playing Spy v. Spy...
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Exactly, quite a few people change to this MOS because they want to be the awesome undercover agent but little do they know; being accepted to the program and passing CISAC really only qualifies you to be the bottom of the barrel lowest level "records checker". While you're being that low level guy anything that comes up with the slightest hint of "we might have something hot here" immediately gets taken away by someone/other unit who actually does the "cool guy stuff". If you want to do the cool guy stuff you need to have experience, advanced professional development training, and the persistence to keep applying to those other special units.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
Please share your personal experience 1LT Chris Smith in order to provide more insights into the discussion.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
The point was not to dissuade 1LT Chris Smith, the point was to ensure that the fundamentals is the career set were respected and understood. Those “cool guy/gal” units do exist and they are exciting to be a part of. However if you are not a master of the fundamentals, the likelihood that you will be selected for one of those assignments is highly unlikely. Thanks for your perspective!!!
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1SG Steven Stankovich
1LT Chris Smith you bring up valid points. The right mentality is important. Unfortunately in my many years in the Army, I have come across many Soldiers, even Agents, who do not understand what implied tasks are. It is all part of the job and one needs to be proficient at all skill sets. I have been retired for almost two years now and away from the schoolhouse for eight or nine so my experiences are dated. Selection criteria, program of instruction, facilitators, etc are different. As long as our Agents are out doing the job and doing it right, that is all that matters.
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Feel free to email me and I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you've got.
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I would not get discouraged, like MSG Stankovich said, give SFC Blamer a call / email and she should be able to square you away. I have personally submitted four packets recently and it does take a while but they should never leave anyone hanging. Back when I first applied in 2009 it took nearly eight months to hear anything back; which jacked up my assignments a little bit due to my DEROS from Germany coming before receiving the answer but in the end it all worked out. Well except for the fact that I'm back in Germany again, back to back assignments here was not really what I was looking for. Feel free to email me as well ( [login to see] ) and I'll answer what ever I can. The CI community is VERY small so if you do your job well people will know you; on the flip side of that coin if you're not cut out for the MOS people will also know you, usually much faster because bad news always travels faster.
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SPC Callis, I see my tapping into your posting brought it up to the current discussions and got you some needed and helpful input from some of your fellow MI/CI comrades.
Again good luck and push forward in your career.
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I would tell you to contact a SFC Jenette Blamer at the Office Chief of MI (OCMI) at Fort Huachuca. The CISAC Course fell under my Company when I was a 1SG at Huachuca. I will tell you this. The course is very academically challenging. There is a lot of report writing, a lot of attention to detail and a lot of learning the "CI way."
Traditionally, a new CISAC graduate, especially a SGT, would be sent to a BCT. Although that is not always the case, it does happen fairly frequent. 35Ls can go almost anywhere so I will not bore you with detail and verse about the different locations. There are a lot of schools available for 35Ls. I would go ahead and secure a copy of the 35L Career Map and start looking at it.
How long has your packet been in the system? Sometimes it does take a while. Good luck and if you need any assistance along the way, don't hesitate to drop me a line.
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SPC Matthew Gibbs
Report writing scared me to death, I wasn't about to recycled. 1st time GO, whew! I was a 97B, btw.
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Sir, I see that this was posted a year or so ago would this still be the POC ? If not would you happen to know who might be. Thanks in advance.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
If you let me know where you are located, I may be able to find a good POC for you SGT (Join to see).
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I just graduated from CISAC in November. If you want more information, I can give you realistic answers.
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I wasn't the one that posted the question, but I am looking at re-up and possibly changing MOS. I get my SPC beginning on next month, 1Sept15. I was wonder about how long the AIT for 35L is and a realistic day to day. Thank you in advance and please feel free to email me any response at [login to see]
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Good afternoon SFC,
I have a school date for next month through Sep. I’m looking for a rough day to day curriculum. With Covid cutting class numbers in half I’m curious about PT, field ops, ruck marches etc. the usual army stuff in conjunction with classroom. Can you provide? I’m E5. Barracks or shared room? Any information would be quite appreciated. Thanks.
I have a school date for next month through Sep. I’m looking for a rough day to day curriculum. With Covid cutting class numbers in half I’m curious about PT, field ops, ruck marches etc. the usual army stuff in conjunction with classroom. Can you provide? I’m E5. Barracks or shared room? Any information would be quite appreciated. Thanks.
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Since you have not received any feedback, I thought I would give you some support and see if you have had any feedback from DA or COC yet on where you are in system or process for approval.
Good luck and keep us updated on your progress, we retirees/veterans as well as AD SMs need to support and mentor junior Soldiers who are trying to better themselves and progress in their careers.
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Would anyone be able to give me some reading material that would be pertinent to learning to better myself to become a 35L? I am planning on reclassing here in the next year or so.
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