Posted on Aug 1, 2018
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I joined from the Navy and I have a HRC Memo for my grade determination that states I completed other Branch NCOES. I am wondering if that means my BLC requirement is met, since I was awarded my E-5 and BLC is a requirement to be pinned. I've talked to my S-1, and my NCO but no one seems to really know who to talk to for an answer. I have the memo, my leadership course certificate and my promotion orders to E5 as well.
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COL Thomas F.
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I had a similar situation when a "retired" Marine popped into my office to enlist in the Army Reserves as an E-7. As I understand it he retired from the Corps if they let him back in, they wouldn't promoted him higher. Long story on that one. Needless to say, he dumps this huge folder on my desk and says he's qualified through E-7. Granted, this was before the overhaul of the promotion system. However, AR 350-1 is pretty specific on what courses from the sister services we will except. For example Para 3-28 states that you will attend Prior Service Basic Cbt Training unless you meet certain conditions. Since I don't know which Navy school you refer too, so I can't tell you if you need certain things. I also can't tell if you are AC, USAR or ARNG. AR 600-8-19 does covers enlisted promotions for the different COMPOs. USAR is chapter 5, Ch 6 is for IRR/IMA, ARNG is chapter 7, etc. Chapter 3 covers SGT promotions in all compos. It looks like the ARNG is the most flexible in giving credit, but not so much on the AC side. If you have a diploma or a 1059 type form from the Navy with it listed, get it perm'd and put on your ERB. If nothing else, its in the record. Then enroll for school in ATRRS and do great things. Honestly, I don't see "Navy" anywhere on the list. Lots of USMC stuff. Hope you are successful. Few things suck worse then taking two schools for the same thing.

Footnote - Turns out the Marine lied about his NCO course and a badge he received. Before they caught it, he went to Army OCS and was commissioned a 2LT. Turns out he lied about a preexisting medical condition when he had a heart attack on duty (he was in his late 30s) as a BG's aide. He was given a GOMO and a OTH discharge. Ah, only if the internet and Facebook existed back then. You can't make this stuff up.
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Thank you sir. I'll take a look at those regs. I have a certificate from the Petty Officer Selectee leadership course. When HRC did a grade determination, the memo states I met other component NCOES, so I'm not sure if that is purely grade determination or also applied to BLC. I was supposed to do PSBCT however, I got sent through OSUT, so they said I had to do the whole thing.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Since each service has it's own schools, should tell you something. What you leaned in the Navy helped you in the Navy, not the Army- Did the Navy ever force you to do land navigation, call for fire or MEDEVAC, inspect a truck, Bradley, etc.? I doubt your idea will fly.
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Your requirement is met. With the army step program you cannot be promoted until you have completed the required ncoes. If you were to attempt to attend BLC you would be denied enrollment.
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You don't. Your ERB will simply show you as enrolling in SSD2. It won't show in your schools because you didn't complete the course.
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How do I get it updated? Because the course I am trying to go to is asking it reflect in my ERB.
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SFC (Join to see) Is there a way for that to happen? I've checked blackboard and my ACT, but it's just blank.
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Typically, you are automatically enrolled at the end of your ncoes. Since you won't have that trigger, you will most likely have to email the person in your branch responsible for enrolling you in ALC if you are not able to enroll through the normal website.
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