Posted on Jun 15, 2019
If a POG, awarded with a CAB (combat action badge), were to transfer to Infantry, would the soldier be authorized to wear the CIB?
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SFC Lynn Santosuosso
MAJ Rj M
With all due respect Major, I have gone to a few too many funerals of Brothers and Sisters who did not survive the battle back home and are remembered as members of the 22 club. Those numbers need to be added to your statistics.
Respectfully.
With all due respect Major, I have gone to a few too many funerals of Brothers and Sisters who did not survive the battle back home and are remembered as members of the 22 club. Those numbers need to be added to your statistics.
Respectfully.
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SFC Lynn Santosuosso
MAJ Rj M
Just curious as to why your profile is not verified? Are you really who you say you are?
Respectfully.
Just curious as to why your profile is not verified? Are you really who you say you are?
Respectfully.
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CSM Charles Hayden
COL Victor Hagan After being a ‘Metal Sergeant’ for so long, now I am like a rock that has been rolling down a river for a long time - rounded and smooth.
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No you have to be an infantryman engaged in combat with the enemy to be awarded a CIB. Said SM would wear the CAB until he engages an enemy as an infantryman
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SSG Michael Doolittle
In Vietnam you had to be in combat 30 days to be awarded a CIB. Now it is 24 hours I think. A joke to all who got theirs the old fashioned way, they earned it
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SPC David C.
SSG Michael Doolittle - Oh jeez, another one of those "Back in my day" types. Wanna know a little secret, WW2 vets consider you guys pussies who had it easy. WW1 vets consider WW2 vets bitches who complain too much. Get over it, war evolves as do the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who fight them.
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1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR)
SSG Michael Doolittle - There has never been a "Time" requirement for the CIB award. However, U.S. Army Vietnam regulations went so far as to require documentation of the type and intensity of enemy fire encountered by the Soldier. The intended requirement to be "personally present and under fire" has not changed. Nothing about 30 day or 24 hours... The following information is from the United States Army Human Resources Command and mirrors the information in AR 600-8-22.
For award of the CIB a Soldier must meet the following three requirements:
(1) Be an infantryman satisfactorily performing infantry duties.
(2) Assigned to an infantry unit during such time as the unit is engaged in active ground combat.
(3) Actively participate in such ground combat. Campaign or battle credit alone is not sufficient for award of the CIB.
For award of the CIB a Soldier must meet the following three requirements:
(1) Be an infantryman satisfactorily performing infantry duties.
(2) Assigned to an infantry unit during such time as the unit is engaged in active ground combat.
(3) Actively participate in such ground combat. Campaign or battle credit alone is not sufficient for award of the CIB.
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CDR David Troutman
I like the colonel's answer. In the Navy we would say, when in doubt, read reference (a) and it will answer almost all of your questions.
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SSG William Hommel
SSG David Milholen - In my years, that was either RTM or RTFM depending how many times you were asked.
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1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR)
Col Mackey, you are absolutely Correct... We need to read the AR or check with US Army Human Resources Command before making a claim!
Just to clarify... The regulation has AWARD OF THE CIB HAS NO REQUIREMENT FOR SUSTAINED COMBAT, 30 DAYS, OR EVEN 24 HOURS...
ALSO, THE CIB IS NOT LIMITED TO 11 SERIES MOS PERSONNEL. According to AR 600-8-22, specific eligibility criteria for the CIB require that:
(1) A Soldier must be an Army infantry or SF officer (SSI 11 or 18) in the grade of COL/O–6 or below, or an Army enlisted Soldier or warrant officer with an infantry or SF MOS who, subsequent to 6 December 1941, has satisfactorily performed duty while assigned or attached as a member of an infantry, ranger, or SF unit of either a brigade, regimental, or smaller size during any period such unit was engaged in active ground combat. Eligibility for SF personnel in MOSs 18B, 18C, 18E, 18F, and 18Z (less 18D–SF medical sergeant) accrues from 20 December 1989. Retroactive awards of the CIB to SF personnel are not authorized prior to 20 December 1989.
By the way, before anybody challenges the SF requirement... In the Vietnam era, the SF MOS mirrored the Infantry 11 series. During Vietnam, I had an 11F4S MOS (Special Forces Operations and Intelligence Sergeant). My CIB was awarded with that MOS.
Just to clarify... The regulation has AWARD OF THE CIB HAS NO REQUIREMENT FOR SUSTAINED COMBAT, 30 DAYS, OR EVEN 24 HOURS...
ALSO, THE CIB IS NOT LIMITED TO 11 SERIES MOS PERSONNEL. According to AR 600-8-22, specific eligibility criteria for the CIB require that:
(1) A Soldier must be an Army infantry or SF officer (SSI 11 or 18) in the grade of COL/O–6 or below, or an Army enlisted Soldier or warrant officer with an infantry or SF MOS who, subsequent to 6 December 1941, has satisfactorily performed duty while assigned or attached as a member of an infantry, ranger, or SF unit of either a brigade, regimental, or smaller size during any period such unit was engaged in active ground combat. Eligibility for SF personnel in MOSs 18B, 18C, 18E, 18F, and 18Z (less 18D–SF medical sergeant) accrues from 20 December 1989. Retroactive awards of the CIB to SF personnel are not authorized prior to 20 December 1989.
By the way, before anybody challenges the SF requirement... In the Vietnam era, the SF MOS mirrored the Infantry 11 series. During Vietnam, I had an 11F4S MOS (Special Forces Operations and Intelligence Sergeant). My CIB was awarded with that MOS.
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