Posted on Nov 7, 2019
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Are there any stark differences I should know about? I have an example that my organization used for dining in but could not find one for dining out.
One person says that there is no Mr./Madam Vice or President but all of my google searches are to the contrary. Does anyone have a good military ball/dining-out script I could use to show someone?
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LTC Stephen C.
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CPT (Join to see), here’s the USMA guide for a dining-in. It provides great specificity and detail. Others have already described the differences between a dining-in and a dining out.
LTC Jason Mackay Maj Kim Patterson SFC Scott Higgins SSgt (Join to see)

https://westpoint.edu/sites/default/files/inline-images/military/directorate_of_cadet_activities/MilitaryDiningInGuide.pdf
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Thank you for the doc.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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These two events are drastically different. The dining in is a closed mess where everyone let’s their hair down. The grog is charged and antics begin. No guest speaker, this is the president’s event. The dining out has guests and the unit is on its best behavior. No grog, no Mr Vice. The senior commander is the host. There may or may not be a guest speaker. Usually is. The air is formal and serious.

In the last decade we’ve gone away, come back to, and away from the real separation of these events.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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I agree, right now I'm teaching ROTC and out of 15 Cadre we can't delineate completely. To be honest, I have seen grog at military balls/dining out but it was more like a punch and really an excuse to give everyone more booze.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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CPT (Join to see) as I said the lines have been blurred but I think the resources others posted here will help clarify. A ball is basically a dining out.
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SFC Scott Higgins
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There is a USAREC Pamplet 600-15 from May of 1994 you could use as a guide.
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/media/2006/05/53_military_dining_handbook.pdf
There is also a very good comittee planning guide for dining ins and outs with a sample script.
I found it on the internet and you can download the pdf.
http://cdn.asktop.net/wp/download/9/Comittee%20Planning%20Guide%20for%20Dining%20Ins.doc.
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LTC Stephen C.
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Excellent information, SFC Scott Higgins.
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