Posted on Jan 19, 2021
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Went on leave and ****ed up BIG! Smoked weed and failed my drug test. Yes I know I’m a dumbass and my career is over. What can I expect? Dishonorable or general or other than honorable?
I heard dishonorable comes only with felony things.
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Lt Col Jim Coe
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Back in the dark ages (1970s) you would have been processes out of the service as unsuitable to serve. I did several separation investigations as a Captain back then. Things changed a lot. My guess is NJP and drug rehab. Do good and you’ll make it to the end of your enlistment.
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Am I supposed to pass drug rehab to stay in?
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Lt Col Jim Coe
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SPC (Join to see) you should complete drug rehab for yourself. You don’t need a lifelong addiction to anything, especially putting chemicals into your body for enjoyment. A good side effect of passing rehab may be staying in the Service to the end of your enlistment.
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DDs come from a General Court Martial and are for the worst offenses. Rule that one out.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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I'm no legal scholar but I've only ever seen a Dishonorable or Bad Conduct Discharge after conviction at Court Martial. Those do carry felony convictions into the civilian world. Typically, what I saw over my career was those who popped hot on a drug screen were given Other than Honorable or General Discharge as services usually don't waste the effort on Court Martial for drug use unless there are other violations of UCMJ along with it. General or OTH doesn't have felony status but you'll still staple that to every job application you submit for the rest of your life. Add to that, loss of education and VA benefits as those are tied to Honorable Discharge.

Best case assuming there are no previous disciplinary actions, you'll get Article 15 actions, be sent to a substance abuse program, and with luck retained in the service (at least until the end of your current enlistment). Whether your Commander recommends/approves reenlistment down the road could depend on to many factors to address here.
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What makes you get dishonorable or bad conduct discharge? & yes this is my first time ever in trouble or even getting counseled since I been at this unit in the 82nd. So I will get to stay in or they will be giving me the boot along with an article ?
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SPC (Join to see) - it's been a while since I was in command so it may have changed but it used to be that if you were E4 or below for first time offender it was mandatory to enroll you in a substance abuse program and give you another chance. but I think now it is commander's discretion. if you've been a good soldier up to this point there is probably a chance they won't chapter you.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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SPC (Join to see) - Usually, Courts Martial are reserved for serious offenses such as Willful Destruction of Property, Theft over $1000, Attempted Murder, Rape, etc. The punitive articles of the UCMJ (your supervisor or PSG can show you where to find them if you don't already know) will give you a good idea of what may land a person in front of a military judge/jury. As for a 1st offense drug use issue with no previous disciplinary actions, my best guess would be mandatory referral to a Substance Abuse Program (I think the Army refers to it as ASAP). Depending on how much of an example the Commander wants to make, s/he may impose Article 15 action (with or without suspended actions), and re-evaluate after a set period of time to consider retention or discharge. A lot will depend on your past/present/future duty performance and willingness to accept responsibility for the infraction.

OH! Go see the local Area Defense Counsel IMMEDIATELY! They can offer much better advice than we can here on RP.
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Best advice ever thank you so muchMSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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