Posted on Mar 13, 2021
Can someone with Manpower Statistics experience help me understand this Manpower data?
5.35K
7
11
1
1
0
Table 5-7. FY 1994 Selected Reserve Enlisted Members, by Age aad Component,
(Percent)
Age
Group
17-19
Army
National
Guard
7.3
Army Reserve
9.7
Naval
Reserve
1.7
Marine Corps Reserve
11.7
The year is 1994 when I joined the Navy with a reserve enlistment at 18 years old. Some guy made it seem like I could go to college on a reserve GI Bill and be in the military. I was from San Diego a military town. I was like hell yeah. I am going to graduate by 22 and be a commenced officer. My life is set! THE AMERICAN DREAM! I bet a lot of young guys think this way 18 years old when the sign a reserve enlistment.
In 2021 investigating, I find the Manpower Statistics for that year.
It says here I was 1.7 percent age group for the reserve in the Navy 1994. It just sounds really abnormal. The Regular Navy Full time enlistment 17-19 yo represent in total over 50% of any average recruit year. So there are lot of guys to share similar experiences with just like bootcamp, all you going through it together, just like varsity sports in high school fighting with your friends to beat the other school, all in the same age category.
After bootcamp I was sent to a actual active duty ship part time for the next 5 years. I was going to school. There must of been a lot of ROTC students. They all had very formal leadership monitoring coulsengin guidance supervision, with a dream of being in the military. I was already in and I had no guidance or leadership of buddy system with anyone at school or on the ship doing the same thing.
The guys in deck on the ship, all active duty knew I was going to school, and wanted to be an officer, while assigned to them at the same time. They thought it was odd, and they questioned this situation. That was odd and in fact it was really odd all the way around, and in fact it was dangerous.
The statistics, I think that would justify my continued claim I never met another sailor out in the fleet, on the 2 ships I served, with this enlistment, and especially in my age category.
If no one in your era has the same enlistment you have in the units you served, a bit like saying you are the only 18 year old National Guard to do something, what does that do for your own personal feeling of fitting in and being accepted? Especially if your unit is an operation combat ship Full of guys with full time experience older then you
(Percent)
Age
Group
17-19
Army
National
Guard
7.3
Army Reserve
9.7
Naval
Reserve
1.7
Marine Corps Reserve
11.7
The year is 1994 when I joined the Navy with a reserve enlistment at 18 years old. Some guy made it seem like I could go to college on a reserve GI Bill and be in the military. I was from San Diego a military town. I was like hell yeah. I am going to graduate by 22 and be a commenced officer. My life is set! THE AMERICAN DREAM! I bet a lot of young guys think this way 18 years old when the sign a reserve enlistment.
In 2021 investigating, I find the Manpower Statistics for that year.
It says here I was 1.7 percent age group for the reserve in the Navy 1994. It just sounds really abnormal. The Regular Navy Full time enlistment 17-19 yo represent in total over 50% of any average recruit year. So there are lot of guys to share similar experiences with just like bootcamp, all you going through it together, just like varsity sports in high school fighting with your friends to beat the other school, all in the same age category.
After bootcamp I was sent to a actual active duty ship part time for the next 5 years. I was going to school. There must of been a lot of ROTC students. They all had very formal leadership monitoring coulsengin guidance supervision, with a dream of being in the military. I was already in and I had no guidance or leadership of buddy system with anyone at school or on the ship doing the same thing.
The guys in deck on the ship, all active duty knew I was going to school, and wanted to be an officer, while assigned to them at the same time. They thought it was odd, and they questioned this situation. That was odd and in fact it was really odd all the way around, and in fact it was dangerous.
The statistics, I think that would justify my continued claim I never met another sailor out in the fleet, on the 2 ships I served, with this enlistment, and especially in my age category.
If no one in your era has the same enlistment you have in the units you served, a bit like saying you are the only 18 year old National Guard to do something, what does that do for your own personal feeling of fitting in and being accepted? Especially if your unit is an operation combat ship Full of guys with full time experience older then you
Reserves
Edited 3 y ago
Posted 3 y ago
Responses: 2
I don't understand your question. It doesn't make any else. I deployed as a SSG in the National Guard with Soldiers that were 18. They had no issues going to school after. I even went to school during my deployment. The military isn't there to take over your life but to give you opportunity. Some fall short and some go on to do great things. It isn't the luck of the draw. It's the commitment of the person.
(3)
(0)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
Lastly I bet you will never see this again.
The navy was lighting up the reserve component from the top down in the late 80s and 1990s. So how was I really going to have a fighting chance when that is my leadership, and I was recruited into it at 18 1994? Again man it sucks because I went from meritorious graduation to scaring my mom losing my fiancé medically disqualified by Meps to get out of it and join Army, and MEPS 3P'd and leadership at multiple commands MEPS and Navy never treated me and let me get back on the ship
then the Va would not give me help when I got there for years
So who thinks I am weak or a punk...??
NAVAL RESERVE: AN ORGANIZATION IN TRANSITION
by
Richard Charles Mazza
Lieutenant Commander, United States Naval Reserve
B.A., Boston State College, 1978
ABSTRACT
The purpose of this thesis is to examine the issues facing the Naval Reserve as
it transitions from its cold war mission to new and, possibly, expanded roles under the
New National Military Strategy.
A. MANAGEMENT
In 1988, Naval Reserve CINCPACFLT Detachment 420
(CINCPACFLT DET 420) conducted a management review and
organizational analysis of the Naval Reserve. The CINCPACFLT
Det 420 Management Assistance Team (MAT) was tasked by the
Director of Naval Reserve to conduct this analysis. Although
the emphasis was on the Naval Reserve Surface Force and
CNAVRES organization as a whole, their analysis addressed
issues encountered by the Naval Air Reserve Force as well.
The MAT findings maintained that the administrative and
organizational problems facing the Naval Reserve were a result
of the Naval Reserve operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives. (CINCPACFLT DET
420, 1988)
The MAT found that there was a prevailing failure to
comply with CNAVRES policy throughout the Naval Reserve.
Equally as serious as this non-compliance was the toleration
of willful non-compliance. Organizational disconnects, as
well as a lack of standardized command selection criteria,
were noted as a contributory factor in the observed widespread
lack of leadership.
The navy was lighting up the reserve component from the top down in the late 80s and 1990s. So how was I really going to have a fighting chance when that is my leadership, and I was recruited into it at 18 1994? Again man it sucks because I went from meritorious graduation to scaring my mom losing my fiancé medically disqualified by Meps to get out of it and join Army, and MEPS 3P'd and leadership at multiple commands MEPS and Navy never treated me and let me get back on the ship
then the Va would not give me help when I got there for years
So who thinks I am weak or a punk...??
NAVAL RESERVE: AN ORGANIZATION IN TRANSITION
by
Richard Charles Mazza
Lieutenant Commander, United States Naval Reserve
B.A., Boston State College, 1978
ABSTRACT
The purpose of this thesis is to examine the issues facing the Naval Reserve as
it transitions from its cold war mission to new and, possibly, expanded roles under the
New National Military Strategy.
A. MANAGEMENT
In 1988, Naval Reserve CINCPACFLT Detachment 420
(CINCPACFLT DET 420) conducted a management review and
organizational analysis of the Naval Reserve. The CINCPACFLT
Det 420 Management Assistance Team (MAT) was tasked by the
Director of Naval Reserve to conduct this analysis. Although
the emphasis was on the Naval Reserve Surface Force and
CNAVRES organization as a whole, their analysis addressed
issues encountered by the Naval Air Reserve Force as well.
The MAT findings maintained that the administrative and
organizational problems facing the Naval Reserve were a result
of the Naval Reserve operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives. (CINCPACFLT DET
420, 1988)
The MAT found that there was a prevailing failure to
comply with CNAVRES policy throughout the Naval Reserve.
Equally as serious as this non-compliance was the toleration
of willful non-compliance. Organizational disconnects, as
well as a lack of standardized command selection criteria,
were noted as a contributory factor in the observed widespread
lack of leadership.
(0)
(0)
CPT (Join to see)
PO3 Aaron Hassay - It's not that I don't get the Navy. I grew up in San Diego and was in Navy JROTC in high school. I had a Chief that was my mentor during my time in high school. What I am saying this is like horoscopes. People try to make draw conclusion but in reality it is just some stars in the sky.
(1)
(0)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
CPT (Join to see) What high school did you go to? I went to el cap high school varsity cross country and track some CIF and League Championships 436 mile 10 minute 2 mile...gave up baseball I played as a kid at the all star level to do some endurance sports..but when I did adult baseball while in the Navy I struck out 20 guys in one game I still remember I still had it ..and I was alway setting the standard in PRT for the ship..before I got ill..regardless man just some quick thought and memories...
But yeah you did Navy Junior ROTC man you were already military minded early on. Why did you not go due Navy ROTC?
I only looked into military towards end of high school and called one recruiter based on 1 add that looked good SAM Sea Air Mariner enlistment, and signed up, not much question, but he did say 8 year enlistment and I was like wow ok that is a long way away, at 18. So things better go right here. I mean I was not questioning authority’ then. Meritorious Bootcamp Graduate 18 won the Bootcamp Mile against all the other companies. In bootcamp of 120 recruits there was only 2 others with my enlistment. So I think from asking around ARmy Bootcamp has a large percentage maybe even close to half, of weekend warrior, National Guard mixed in every bootcamp class
So that should of been some clue to me that something was wierd or abnormal all, well 99% of the rest of the company had, the normal USN contract, and were crossed eyed that this other SAM enlistment existed, and were jealous we were going home after bootcamp. Well all 3 of us had plan on being officers by 22 and making this a big career move based on logic of being a federal employee at 18 and getting those credits and also going to college and again getting a degree by 22, and commissioning.
I am not sure what age you were actually committed contractually. But I was 18 no turning back.
So when they assigned me a ship, might as well as been a space shuttle, in technicality, and specific language, and parameters, like nothing you will experience anywhere else, then you can not really try to prevent to completely understand once the ship goes operational and the requirements right off the coast even in San Diego where we are looking for and tracking enemy submarines as a anti submarine Guided Missile Frigate. Subs from other countries scan our coast.
So when the Army is in the field doing field excersises, we are actually already toying with, and taking serious there are enemy combatants right below us in the same waters, a bit spooky, all the computers are on, and you get sea sick, and dont sleep for days, and pull mid watches in sub human temperatures in forward lookout that can only be tolerated for a few hours at max as you rotate in the watch...
Regardless I think that is just the tip of the iceberg and I have not even begun on the qualifications manuals or Quals for a combat ship for your billet. Well that as well be a masters course you are attaining just specific to a guided missle frigate and no where else on earth, to be combat deployable, and you still think you are going to college and study with any sense you can do both. Do you think the ship cares what happens off the ship and your dream to be an officer and study? No not at all. Go cry to your mom dude. I bet all ROTC guys if put in that situation would cry and crumble and get out asap, the attrition rate would be near 100 Percent. Infact I guarantee it would be 100%. The military branches would never have someone in both a an operational mode and apprenticing and qualifying at 18, and also in a full semester of ROTC.
I bet when you talk about the soldiers you deployed with, went back to school when there was a clear break, from action, and they could focus on one or the other, and not both in equal measure.
The military teaches us to focus and get it right. But this was a 5 year plan in trying to distract and confuse, something that they do in some forms, to test guys in like BUDS or in Bootcamp, and test your resolve. But again comparing a Ship assignment where you have to get it right and can not be confused, at 18, and bootcamp where you can be fu-ked with, but not under the gun of actually having to be qualified and responsible for a combat deployable roll just yet, is 2 seperate completely Concepts.
So I continue. I had a chief on the ship towards the end of my stay on the ship. I had dropped of college unable to study, getting f’s, gettin jittery, already been deployed on a Unitas, and a Carat, and enroute underway to Hawaii, for the ships next movement. Regardless I was not well, but there are no doctors on the ship, just Corpsman who check if you are alive, and you better not hangout at sick call, as you will be lit up for malingering, and get screwed with a lesson you only need once, but regardless the new chief was actually a command master chief, who well kicked my ass and threatened my career to actually kick me out of the navy all together alone in the forward hole, because I did not treat him with proper respect or whatever the excuse was, and he wanted to teach me or the crew a lesson, and show how he worked, and I was sea sick and not well, and by the time I made it back to San Diego, I went in broken spirit, fiance on the rocks, to the Army REcruiter in the same recruiting station i joined the Navy, and said help me man I want to transfer my obligation, I am an e4. Anways months went by the MEPS process restarted. I get a call from that recruiter hey man you can never join the Army, and that is permanent sorry good by. I was just 22.
YOu think any ROTC or officer has ever had to deal with all that by 22.
I ask you to find one person.
I blacked out, i had 4 more years to go
But yeah you did Navy Junior ROTC man you were already military minded early on. Why did you not go due Navy ROTC?
I only looked into military towards end of high school and called one recruiter based on 1 add that looked good SAM Sea Air Mariner enlistment, and signed up, not much question, but he did say 8 year enlistment and I was like wow ok that is a long way away, at 18. So things better go right here. I mean I was not questioning authority’ then. Meritorious Bootcamp Graduate 18 won the Bootcamp Mile against all the other companies. In bootcamp of 120 recruits there was only 2 others with my enlistment. So I think from asking around ARmy Bootcamp has a large percentage maybe even close to half, of weekend warrior, National Guard mixed in every bootcamp class
So that should of been some clue to me that something was wierd or abnormal all, well 99% of the rest of the company had, the normal USN contract, and were crossed eyed that this other SAM enlistment existed, and were jealous we were going home after bootcamp. Well all 3 of us had plan on being officers by 22 and making this a big career move based on logic of being a federal employee at 18 and getting those credits and also going to college and again getting a degree by 22, and commissioning.
I am not sure what age you were actually committed contractually. But I was 18 no turning back.
So when they assigned me a ship, might as well as been a space shuttle, in technicality, and specific language, and parameters, like nothing you will experience anywhere else, then you can not really try to prevent to completely understand once the ship goes operational and the requirements right off the coast even in San Diego where we are looking for and tracking enemy submarines as a anti submarine Guided Missile Frigate. Subs from other countries scan our coast.
So when the Army is in the field doing field excersises, we are actually already toying with, and taking serious there are enemy combatants right below us in the same waters, a bit spooky, all the computers are on, and you get sea sick, and dont sleep for days, and pull mid watches in sub human temperatures in forward lookout that can only be tolerated for a few hours at max as you rotate in the watch...
Regardless I think that is just the tip of the iceberg and I have not even begun on the qualifications manuals or Quals for a combat ship for your billet. Well that as well be a masters course you are attaining just specific to a guided missle frigate and no where else on earth, to be combat deployable, and you still think you are going to college and study with any sense you can do both. Do you think the ship cares what happens off the ship and your dream to be an officer and study? No not at all. Go cry to your mom dude. I bet all ROTC guys if put in that situation would cry and crumble and get out asap, the attrition rate would be near 100 Percent. Infact I guarantee it would be 100%. The military branches would never have someone in both a an operational mode and apprenticing and qualifying at 18, and also in a full semester of ROTC.
I bet when you talk about the soldiers you deployed with, went back to school when there was a clear break, from action, and they could focus on one or the other, and not both in equal measure.
The military teaches us to focus and get it right. But this was a 5 year plan in trying to distract and confuse, something that they do in some forms, to test guys in like BUDS or in Bootcamp, and test your resolve. But again comparing a Ship assignment where you have to get it right and can not be confused, at 18, and bootcamp where you can be fu-ked with, but not under the gun of actually having to be qualified and responsible for a combat deployable roll just yet, is 2 seperate completely Concepts.
So I continue. I had a chief on the ship towards the end of my stay on the ship. I had dropped of college unable to study, getting f’s, gettin jittery, already been deployed on a Unitas, and a Carat, and enroute underway to Hawaii, for the ships next movement. Regardless I was not well, but there are no doctors on the ship, just Corpsman who check if you are alive, and you better not hangout at sick call, as you will be lit up for malingering, and get screwed with a lesson you only need once, but regardless the new chief was actually a command master chief, who well kicked my ass and threatened my career to actually kick me out of the navy all together alone in the forward hole, because I did not treat him with proper respect or whatever the excuse was, and he wanted to teach me or the crew a lesson, and show how he worked, and I was sea sick and not well, and by the time I made it back to San Diego, I went in broken spirit, fiance on the rocks, to the Army REcruiter in the same recruiting station i joined the Navy, and said help me man I want to transfer my obligation, I am an e4. Anways months went by the MEPS process restarted. I get a call from that recruiter hey man you can never join the Army, and that is permanent sorry good by. I was just 22.
YOu think any ROTC or officer has ever had to deal with all that by 22.
I ask you to find one person.
I blacked out, i had 4 more years to go
(0)
(0)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
CPT (Join to see) -I fight a fight for all veterans present and future. I was asked to sign off to use my case in a national federal case. If you are into law then you will like this.
https://www.swords-to-plowshares.org/research-publications/monk-v-shulkin-amicus-brief
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR VETERANS CLAIMS
Argument
1. Veterans experience financial hardship, homelessness, threats to safety,
and increased health problems while they wait long periods for appeals
to resolve their entitlement to disability benefits
The result was crushing for A.H., and unlawful.
A.H.’s treatment records show that the VA’s errors and appellate
delay exacerbated his mental health problems. A.H. focused on the claims
process and on thoughts that the government was intentionally trying to
harm him to such an extent that he had difficulty engaging in day-to-day
activities.
After finally winning his appeal, A.H. was devastated when the
VA inexplicably rated his mental health disability at 0%.
However, this process added an additional nine months to his delay, which
meant nine more months that he remained homeless and unable to provide
for himself. Ex. A ¶¶ 13-14.
The medical record in A.H.’s case documented his lengthy history of severe
mental health symptoms and homelessness. After winning service
connection for his condition on appeal, the VA inexplicably rated his
disability at 0% without an examination.
While waiting for the resolution of his appeal, A.H. did not have enough
money to cover his basic needs and was homeless and estranged from his family. He
feared for his personal safety as he tried to navigate temporary solutions to his
homelessness and worried about his ability to feed and clothe himself
After finally winning his claim and receiving benefits, A.H. was able to
focus on other life goals instead of on minimal economic survival, safety, and the stress
of having his injuries and experiences denied. He followed through on VA-assisted
housing opportunities, moved into an apartment, and reported briefly being able to spend
time caring for his father, a Vietnam veteran, before his father passed away.
13. Grave errors during the VA examination to rate A.H.’s disability added to
the delay and distress A.H. endured. At the time the BVA granted A.H. service
connection, VA treatment records in his claims file documented years of his paranoid and
delusional thinking, chronic suicidal thoughts and prior suicide attempts, and chronically
low functioning. Inexplicably, without conducting an examination, and without
considering or referencing this clinical history, the VA assigned A.H. a 0% disability
rating in August 2016.
So I was in the VA Oakland system.
The VA Oakland was being investigated for negligence 2015 while I was in their system. My Navy Army Transfer Permanent Medical DQ 1998, listed as evidence, and other in service medical diagnosis, and documented indigent and homeless, would not even equal enough to get a homeless housing voucher approved.
https://www.disabledveterans.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/161014-OSC-Press-Release.pdf
WASHINGTON, D.C./October 13, 2016 – In a letter sent to the White House and Congress today, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) reported that the Veterans Affairs Regional Office (VARO) in Oakland, California, failed to process veterans’ benefits claims accurately and in a timely manner. This delayed the accurate payment of benefits to veterans and their dependents, in some cases by years. Three Oakland VARO whistleblowers came to OSC with disclosures of the Oakland VARO’s deficiencies, prompting an investigation. Those whistleblowers are Rustyann Brown, a former claims assistant, Roselyn Tolliver, a veterans service representative, and Lydia Cheney, a veterans service representative.
“The whistleblowers performed a public service by bringing to light the severe delays in processing veterans benefit claims and deserve our gratitude,” said Special Counsel Carolyn Lerner. “These delays are particularly disturbing since the applicants are disabled veterans and their dependents. No veteran should have to wait years before receiving the benefits they are owed for their service to this nation.”
https://www.swords-to-plowshares.org/research-publications/monk-v-shulkin-amicus-brief
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR VETERANS CLAIMS
Argument
1. Veterans experience financial hardship, homelessness, threats to safety,
and increased health problems while they wait long periods for appeals
to resolve their entitlement to disability benefits
The result was crushing for A.H., and unlawful.
A.H.’s treatment records show that the VA’s errors and appellate
delay exacerbated his mental health problems. A.H. focused on the claims
process and on thoughts that the government was intentionally trying to
harm him to such an extent that he had difficulty engaging in day-to-day
activities.
After finally winning his appeal, A.H. was devastated when the
VA inexplicably rated his mental health disability at 0%.
However, this process added an additional nine months to his delay, which
meant nine more months that he remained homeless and unable to provide
for himself. Ex. A ¶¶ 13-14.
The medical record in A.H.’s case documented his lengthy history of severe
mental health symptoms and homelessness. After winning service
connection for his condition on appeal, the VA inexplicably rated his
disability at 0% without an examination.
While waiting for the resolution of his appeal, A.H. did not have enough
money to cover his basic needs and was homeless and estranged from his family. He
feared for his personal safety as he tried to navigate temporary solutions to his
homelessness and worried about his ability to feed and clothe himself
After finally winning his claim and receiving benefits, A.H. was able to
focus on other life goals instead of on minimal economic survival, safety, and the stress
of having his injuries and experiences denied. He followed through on VA-assisted
housing opportunities, moved into an apartment, and reported briefly being able to spend
time caring for his father, a Vietnam veteran, before his father passed away.
13. Grave errors during the VA examination to rate A.H.’s disability added to
the delay and distress A.H. endured. At the time the BVA granted A.H. service
connection, VA treatment records in his claims file documented years of his paranoid and
delusional thinking, chronic suicidal thoughts and prior suicide attempts, and chronically
low functioning. Inexplicably, without conducting an examination, and without
considering or referencing this clinical history, the VA assigned A.H. a 0% disability
rating in August 2016.
So I was in the VA Oakland system.
The VA Oakland was being investigated for negligence 2015 while I was in their system. My Navy Army Transfer Permanent Medical DQ 1998, listed as evidence, and other in service medical diagnosis, and documented indigent and homeless, would not even equal enough to get a homeless housing voucher approved.
https://www.disabledveterans.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/161014-OSC-Press-Release.pdf
WASHINGTON, D.C./October 13, 2016 – In a letter sent to the White House and Congress today, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) reported that the Veterans Affairs Regional Office (VARO) in Oakland, California, failed to process veterans’ benefits claims accurately and in a timely manner. This delayed the accurate payment of benefits to veterans and their dependents, in some cases by years. Three Oakland VARO whistleblowers came to OSC with disclosures of the Oakland VARO’s deficiencies, prompting an investigation. Those whistleblowers are Rustyann Brown, a former claims assistant, Roselyn Tolliver, a veterans service representative, and Lydia Cheney, a veterans service representative.
“The whistleblowers performed a public service by bringing to light the severe delays in processing veterans benefit claims and deserve our gratitude,” said Special Counsel Carolyn Lerner. “These delays are particularly disturbing since the applicants are disabled veterans and their dependents. No veteran should have to wait years before receiving the benefits they are owed for their service to this nation.”
Swords to Plowshares and the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner filed an amicus brief on behalf of five veterans legal service providers supporting the petitioners in Monk v. Shulkin. The petitioners seek to aggregate a class of all veterans with VA disability benefits appeals delayed over one year. This brief addresses the due process harms of the unreasonable delay on veterans, who face acute financial hardships, homelessness, and increased...
(0)
(0)
1
1
0
These numbers represent the percentage of 17-19 year olds in the Reserve components, totaling 30.4% of the Total Force. Without the source, I'm assuming the remains 69.6 percent represents the remainder of the Reserve Component. These percentages would tend to mirror the overall size of the force. Navy Reserve is small compared to say the Reserve Component of the Army. Further, the Marine Corps as a total service tends to be bottom heavy with 17-21 year olds in the junior ranks are numerous. The USMC is a "young" Service.
I don't know why there is an assumption that ROTC has some magical advantage over everyone else. There is no leadership monitoring in that no ROTC Instructor is following Cadets around, doing bed checks etc. you go to the class. You go to PT in the morning. You attend field training. Most of your trainers are other cadets. Average day that ends in Y, might not even talk to a Cadre member as it was nearly all Cadet run.
Your enlistment type was different, got it. Not sure how that has anything to do with these statistics nor the comparison to ROTC
ROTC would not be included among your posted numbers as the are not enlisted members nor commissioned, they are not members of the Armed Forces until they commission, typically in the 21-24 age bracket.
I don't know why there is an assumption that ROTC has some magical advantage over everyone else. There is no leadership monitoring in that no ROTC Instructor is following Cadets around, doing bed checks etc. you go to the class. You go to PT in the morning. You attend field training. Most of your trainers are other cadets. Average day that ends in Y, might not even talk to a Cadre member as it was nearly all Cadet run.
Your enlistment type was different, got it. Not sure how that has anything to do with these statistics nor the comparison to ROTC
ROTC would not be included among your posted numbers as the are not enlisted members nor commissioned, they are not members of the Armed Forces until they commission, typically in the 21-24 age bracket.
(1)
(0)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
Thanks for chiming in.
You are an officer with an education and ability to analyze right from wrong functional or not functional, standard or not standard, or what a Test is.
I was assigned with that enlistment at that age category, to ships doing this "Test" as referenced in separate DOD reports in the same year
3. To increase integration of Reserve Forces in active forces missions
B. Test manning active Navy Destroyers with a mix of 80 percent active personnel and 20 percent reservists in comparison with 100% active manned ships.”
Another more important initiative is our plan to man some of our active surface combatants at 80% of active manning, relying on selected reserve personnel to fill the remaining billets upon mobilization.”
Admittingly, there are some potential problems involved in the 80/20 concept,
My only experience with ROTC was when I dropped in on a High School cross country track teammate,, state champion in the 800 Jessie Camp 1994 Track, at UCLA. There was a very formal CO and Xo office and complete set of office space for the ROTC cadets. I had already been through bootcamp and was already assigned to a ship so this type of military chain of command structure leadership guidance training monitoring evaluating was already engrained and made sense to me. I went in there as a proud Navy Surface Warfare young guy and introduced myself, as a Navy enlisted, in a very proud manner, just as I had graduated bootcamp Meritoriously a few months prior.
It was something he was just getting used to as he partied like a regular college student, and I was already overwhelmed with my ship assignment and we were the same age.
So look at my chain of command at the Central Command, as reviewed by the Navy as reviewed just a few years before I enlisted.
NAVAL RESERVE: AN ORGANIZATION IN TRANSITION
by
Richard Charles Mazza
Lieutenant Commander, United States Naval Reserve
B.A., Boston State College, 1978
ABSTRACT
The purpose of this thesis is to examine the issues facing the Naval Reserve as
it transitions from its cold war mission to new and, possibly, expanded roles under the
New National Military Strategy.
A. MANAGEMENT
In 1988, Naval Reserve CINCPACFLT Detachment 420
(CINCPACFLT DET 420) conducted a management review and
organizational analysis of the Naval Reserve. The CINCPACFLT
Det 420 Management Assistance Team (MAT) was tasked by the
Director of Naval Reserve to conduct this analysis. Although
the emphasis was on the Naval Reserve Surface Force and
CNAVRES organization as a whole, their analysis addressed
issues encountered by the Naval Air Reserve Force as well.
The MAT findings maintained that the administrative and
organizational problems facing the Naval Reserve were a result
of the Naval Reserve operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives. (CINCPACFLT DET
420, 1988)
b. Personnel/Mobilization
In the early 1970's, the Naval Reserve began a major
effort to align Naval Reserve units with active force
commands. This period of horizontal integration of reserve
units with active components was an effort to
institutionalize the "one Navy" concept originally envisioned
under the Total Force Concept. Naval surface reserve force
ships were horizontally integrated into the active fleet for
operational control.
Again a reserve enlisted is already obligated contractually and been to bootcamp by 18, before a ROTC student will be accepting of that requirement. But they both were enticed to be in the military with one goal, as set by the recuitment, to be a commissioned officer by 22.
He did commission I believe as a Chaplain. I lost touch with him Jessie. I know He got married. Kids.
Here are Navy Reports about the very FFG I was assigned
PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF SUSTAINED SHIPBOARD OPERATIONS ON
U. S.NAVY PERSONNEL
Study Subjects
The subject population was comprised of officers and enlisted crew from
two U.S. Navy ships, a frigate (FFG) and a guided missile cruiser (CG).
Crewmen aboard
the FFG experienced significantly more psychological fatigue. Although not
statistically significant (t = 1.85, p = 0.070), personnel aboard the FFG
also reported more problems with physical fatigue than personnel aboard the
CG.
A more likely explanation is the fact that due to fewer staff, personnel
aboard the FFG were required to spend longer periods of time on watchstanding
duty. Thus, the FFG presented fewer opportunities for prolonged rest
periods. The CG, on the other hand, had three different watch sections. As
noted elsewhere (Congleton, Englund, Hodgdon, Palinkas, Armstrong, and
Kelleher, 1988), crewmen aboard the FFG also reported shorter and more
fragmented sleep periods. In addition, the FFG had undergone a series of GQ
drills prior to entering the operational area which further fatigued its
crew.
I know I look like a complete retard. But this well man makes people actually become part of that magic 22 a day.
After my Navy Army Transfer was 3P by MEPS for medical at 22 yo, trying to get off the ship, I blanked out, and really fell apart, looking back on things.
As a reserve enlsited your mom and younger brother etc and fiancé will see you often, but in a ever more confused angry state, with this reserve assignment.
It triggered every deep sense of abandonment or isolation I might of had as the son of an ill Vietnam infantry army veteran who due things like agent orange could not raise me.
I needed a father to be there. If my father was a Navy Vet or if my navy leaderships and central command cared and monitored me, they would see I was completely breaking in broad daylight, due the ship
So I went to the BCNR a couple years ago lookig for help, because did you know that the VA will not even give you a veteran homeless housing voucher, because the reserve enlistment I signed it not considered a veteran for veteran purposes, no matter what my assignment? I got denied and thought surely someone in the Navy will read these reports and come save a shipmate!!!
But getting denied by the BCNR over the course of the last few years, as they will not even look at or mention they looked at these reports, that are all DOD Navy Reports about a "test" and central commands and units that are all shut down. I got ill out of thin air?
https://www.ida.org/-/media/feature/publications/e/ev/evolution-of-the-militarys-current-activereserve-force-mix/d-4968.ashx
Evolution of the Military's Current Active-Reserve Force Mix
U.S. Navy (USN) The Navy Reserve has evolved over time from a semi-autonomous strategic reserve in terms of platforms and trained individuals to what is today a strategic and operational reserve that is a mix of individuals and unit types that either complement or mirror elements of the AC. In the former case, the RC provides “skills and expertise to complete the Total Force inventory of capabilities”1 and in the latter case, the RC provides “skills and expertise that match the AC to offer greater capacity at lower carrying cost.”2 This evolution can be traced back to the aftermath of WW II, when the Navy had a large number of ships and aircraft and trained the Navy Reserve to staff them in anticipation of a need for a large force to wage war with the Warsaw Pact. By the end of the Cold War, this scenario had become obsolete. In the case of ships, as the size of the fleet declined, the Navy moved to a policy of fully manning all its ships so that these ships would not require RC augmentation in the event of war. In addition, the problems of maintaining ships in standby status with part-time personnel and the impracticality of rotating part-time personnel to deployed units made employing reservists, other than full-time support (FTS) personnel, to operate ships unworkable, and the Navy Reserve Fleet (NRF) disappeared.
To meet the demands for experienced petty officers as the fleet expanded toward its goal of 600 ships, the Navy relied, in part, on voluntary recalls designed to draw prior-service sailors into the Reserves and then back onto active duty. To backfill the petty officers who went to the fleet, the Navy initiated the Sea/Air Mariner (SAM) program to attract new recruits to the Naval Reserve by offering tuition assistance. However, this program proved unsuccessful because its benefits and 6-year obligation compared unfavorably with Army and Air Force programs.66
So, I suppose that would not be to hard to understand as it took Vietnam Service Members decades of loss and confusion and even outright death without knowing it was agent orange exposure. I just had a final meeting with my Friend Jerry Mapp Vietnam Army who passed away due complications of Agent Orange, namely Parkinsons, which he was a patient at Fort Miley SF. Infact Jerry was my first real friend who found me in the street when he was more mobile and could drive and got me to the va, and introduced me to all his contacts, and became like a father figure, as he knew and all the other Vietnam vets knew there, what I was up against.
I was more then ill I was suicidal thinkig of jumping in front of cars, getting smashed by the ship part time duty sending me home with motion illness every month, fell out of society literally homeless housing shelters, living in cars, suicide hospitals, mom worried sick, me no answers, just numb. The ship was kicking my ass breaking me down month by month, and no one it the Navy was monitoring me for developing medical issues due the assignment.
I think you possibly have read my other posts here and there. But man I stay up with no family and keep on finding crazy reports documenting my central command, ships, and enlistment that were all shut down. And sometimes people think I am the weak link like I set it up.
Man I am saying that pressure on any strong young half normal American Kid wold break them eventually and leave them confused.
And you wonder why, only Army Guys, will talk and inquire, as I post very specific Navy reports about very specific Navy Commands in the 1990s? it is because it is undebatable. They can only say you got some bad baloney
I had no chance. It was not made for success
Funny thing is now lookig back on it a lot of my friends dads were Vietnam vets. That generation mid 1990s would be the teenagers of Vietnam Vets.
My dad was missing. I think you already now that. I won't get into it again. I posted a lot of about it. But I think about it alot as he just passed and is now in North Las Vegas National Cemetery if you want to look on va web site Michael Hassay.
Regardless why do you think it is that I can not get a lot of Navy Guys to discuss these exacting reports I can reference and review. It is because most and when I say most 99.99999999 percent did not have the same operational issues as I with this enlistment and assignment. It is that rare and I am not blowing smoke And on any given day it would be considered a mishap and studied and corrected as to never happen again as it even broke the Navy own Standard Organization and Regulations of the U.S. Navy (SORM), OPNAVINST 3120.32 for crewing a ship and apprenticing and OJT by undermanning and assigning an active duty billet to a reserve junior enlisted, who was attempting to go to college and fulfill the reason the recruiter and him agreed to sign the contract, to go to college and get a commons by 22.
I went to bootcamp and learned bout honor integrity and leadership. And I wonder why it is someone like leadership on the Navy side will not get in and assist.
Best
You are an officer with an education and ability to analyze right from wrong functional or not functional, standard or not standard, or what a Test is.
I was assigned with that enlistment at that age category, to ships doing this "Test" as referenced in separate DOD reports in the same year
3. To increase integration of Reserve Forces in active forces missions
B. Test manning active Navy Destroyers with a mix of 80 percent active personnel and 20 percent reservists in comparison with 100% active manned ships.”
Another more important initiative is our plan to man some of our active surface combatants at 80% of active manning, relying on selected reserve personnel to fill the remaining billets upon mobilization.”
Admittingly, there are some potential problems involved in the 80/20 concept,
My only experience with ROTC was when I dropped in on a High School cross country track teammate,, state champion in the 800 Jessie Camp 1994 Track, at UCLA. There was a very formal CO and Xo office and complete set of office space for the ROTC cadets. I had already been through bootcamp and was already assigned to a ship so this type of military chain of command structure leadership guidance training monitoring evaluating was already engrained and made sense to me. I went in there as a proud Navy Surface Warfare young guy and introduced myself, as a Navy enlisted, in a very proud manner, just as I had graduated bootcamp Meritoriously a few months prior.
It was something he was just getting used to as he partied like a regular college student, and I was already overwhelmed with my ship assignment and we were the same age.
So look at my chain of command at the Central Command, as reviewed by the Navy as reviewed just a few years before I enlisted.
NAVAL RESERVE: AN ORGANIZATION IN TRANSITION
by
Richard Charles Mazza
Lieutenant Commander, United States Naval Reserve
B.A., Boston State College, 1978
ABSTRACT
The purpose of this thesis is to examine the issues facing the Naval Reserve as
it transitions from its cold war mission to new and, possibly, expanded roles under the
New National Military Strategy.
A. MANAGEMENT
In 1988, Naval Reserve CINCPACFLT Detachment 420
(CINCPACFLT DET 420) conducted a management review and
organizational analysis of the Naval Reserve. The CINCPACFLT
Det 420 Management Assistance Team (MAT) was tasked by the
Director of Naval Reserve to conduct this analysis. Although
the emphasis was on the Naval Reserve Surface Force and
CNAVRES organization as a whole, their analysis addressed
issues encountered by the Naval Air Reserve Force as well.
The MAT findings maintained that the administrative and
organizational problems facing the Naval Reserve were a result
of the Naval Reserve operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives. (CINCPACFLT DET
420, 1988)
b. Personnel/Mobilization
In the early 1970's, the Naval Reserve began a major
effort to align Naval Reserve units with active force
commands. This period of horizontal integration of reserve
units with active components was an effort to
institutionalize the "one Navy" concept originally envisioned
under the Total Force Concept. Naval surface reserve force
ships were horizontally integrated into the active fleet for
operational control.
Again a reserve enlisted is already obligated contractually and been to bootcamp by 18, before a ROTC student will be accepting of that requirement. But they both were enticed to be in the military with one goal, as set by the recuitment, to be a commissioned officer by 22.
He did commission I believe as a Chaplain. I lost touch with him Jessie. I know He got married. Kids.
Here are Navy Reports about the very FFG I was assigned
PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF SUSTAINED SHIPBOARD OPERATIONS ON
U. S.NAVY PERSONNEL
Study Subjects
The subject population was comprised of officers and enlisted crew from
two U.S. Navy ships, a frigate (FFG) and a guided missile cruiser (CG).
Crewmen aboard
the FFG experienced significantly more psychological fatigue. Although not
statistically significant (t = 1.85, p = 0.070), personnel aboard the FFG
also reported more problems with physical fatigue than personnel aboard the
CG.
A more likely explanation is the fact that due to fewer staff, personnel
aboard the FFG were required to spend longer periods of time on watchstanding
duty. Thus, the FFG presented fewer opportunities for prolonged rest
periods. The CG, on the other hand, had three different watch sections. As
noted elsewhere (Congleton, Englund, Hodgdon, Palinkas, Armstrong, and
Kelleher, 1988), crewmen aboard the FFG also reported shorter and more
fragmented sleep periods. In addition, the FFG had undergone a series of GQ
drills prior to entering the operational area which further fatigued its
crew.
I know I look like a complete retard. But this well man makes people actually become part of that magic 22 a day.
After my Navy Army Transfer was 3P by MEPS for medical at 22 yo, trying to get off the ship, I blanked out, and really fell apart, looking back on things.
As a reserve enlsited your mom and younger brother etc and fiancé will see you often, but in a ever more confused angry state, with this reserve assignment.
It triggered every deep sense of abandonment or isolation I might of had as the son of an ill Vietnam infantry army veteran who due things like agent orange could not raise me.
I needed a father to be there. If my father was a Navy Vet or if my navy leaderships and central command cared and monitored me, they would see I was completely breaking in broad daylight, due the ship
So I went to the BCNR a couple years ago lookig for help, because did you know that the VA will not even give you a veteran homeless housing voucher, because the reserve enlistment I signed it not considered a veteran for veteran purposes, no matter what my assignment? I got denied and thought surely someone in the Navy will read these reports and come save a shipmate!!!
But getting denied by the BCNR over the course of the last few years, as they will not even look at or mention they looked at these reports, that are all DOD Navy Reports about a "test" and central commands and units that are all shut down. I got ill out of thin air?
https://www.ida.org/-/media/feature/publications/e/ev/evolution-of-the-militarys-current-activereserve-force-mix/d-4968.ashx
Evolution of the Military's Current Active-Reserve Force Mix
U.S. Navy (USN) The Navy Reserve has evolved over time from a semi-autonomous strategic reserve in terms of platforms and trained individuals to what is today a strategic and operational reserve that is a mix of individuals and unit types that either complement or mirror elements of the AC. In the former case, the RC provides “skills and expertise to complete the Total Force inventory of capabilities”1 and in the latter case, the RC provides “skills and expertise that match the AC to offer greater capacity at lower carrying cost.”2 This evolution can be traced back to the aftermath of WW II, when the Navy had a large number of ships and aircraft and trained the Navy Reserve to staff them in anticipation of a need for a large force to wage war with the Warsaw Pact. By the end of the Cold War, this scenario had become obsolete. In the case of ships, as the size of the fleet declined, the Navy moved to a policy of fully manning all its ships so that these ships would not require RC augmentation in the event of war. In addition, the problems of maintaining ships in standby status with part-time personnel and the impracticality of rotating part-time personnel to deployed units made employing reservists, other than full-time support (FTS) personnel, to operate ships unworkable, and the Navy Reserve Fleet (NRF) disappeared.
To meet the demands for experienced petty officers as the fleet expanded toward its goal of 600 ships, the Navy relied, in part, on voluntary recalls designed to draw prior-service sailors into the Reserves and then back onto active duty. To backfill the petty officers who went to the fleet, the Navy initiated the Sea/Air Mariner (SAM) program to attract new recruits to the Naval Reserve by offering tuition assistance. However, this program proved unsuccessful because its benefits and 6-year obligation compared unfavorably with Army and Air Force programs.66
So, I suppose that would not be to hard to understand as it took Vietnam Service Members decades of loss and confusion and even outright death without knowing it was agent orange exposure. I just had a final meeting with my Friend Jerry Mapp Vietnam Army who passed away due complications of Agent Orange, namely Parkinsons, which he was a patient at Fort Miley SF. Infact Jerry was my first real friend who found me in the street when he was more mobile and could drive and got me to the va, and introduced me to all his contacts, and became like a father figure, as he knew and all the other Vietnam vets knew there, what I was up against.
I was more then ill I was suicidal thinkig of jumping in front of cars, getting smashed by the ship part time duty sending me home with motion illness every month, fell out of society literally homeless housing shelters, living in cars, suicide hospitals, mom worried sick, me no answers, just numb. The ship was kicking my ass breaking me down month by month, and no one it the Navy was monitoring me for developing medical issues due the assignment.
I think you possibly have read my other posts here and there. But man I stay up with no family and keep on finding crazy reports documenting my central command, ships, and enlistment that were all shut down. And sometimes people think I am the weak link like I set it up.
Man I am saying that pressure on any strong young half normal American Kid wold break them eventually and leave them confused.
And you wonder why, only Army Guys, will talk and inquire, as I post very specific Navy reports about very specific Navy Commands in the 1990s? it is because it is undebatable. They can only say you got some bad baloney
I had no chance. It was not made for success
Funny thing is now lookig back on it a lot of my friends dads were Vietnam vets. That generation mid 1990s would be the teenagers of Vietnam Vets.
My dad was missing. I think you already now that. I won't get into it again. I posted a lot of about it. But I think about it alot as he just passed and is now in North Las Vegas National Cemetery if you want to look on va web site Michael Hassay.
Regardless why do you think it is that I can not get a lot of Navy Guys to discuss these exacting reports I can reference and review. It is because most and when I say most 99.99999999 percent did not have the same operational issues as I with this enlistment and assignment. It is that rare and I am not blowing smoke And on any given day it would be considered a mishap and studied and corrected as to never happen again as it even broke the Navy own Standard Organization and Regulations of the U.S. Navy (SORM), OPNAVINST 3120.32 for crewing a ship and apprenticing and OJT by undermanning and assigning an active duty billet to a reserve junior enlisted, who was attempting to go to college and fulfill the reason the recruiter and him agreed to sign the contract, to go to college and get a commons by 22.
I went to bootcamp and learned bout honor integrity and leadership. And I wonder why it is someone like leadership on the Navy side will not get in and assist.
Best
Ï¿^Ì9Ã.@Pè0fG§ÛKÊ-yZWëÚÚÐ=«DÐRÊ\}GëË(¿P;ü.åã]}kéäµ|wGb1òF¿1æGË4ðüõxãüÐÅ;ó7ë7!íêÆ0íX@Ý@ãÚS4}Ï« véë*=ÇÇiùyÐÊ@TeÅI9]gî)OTNÛùëk¡õÊú6»ÏS.ô«ÕóÐêþSKaÜã·:ƶe\Ý7óÜæ1ë§ûê6ATjcãñàhoèïemïêÛ)ôûmn[ÆòíëÏeü-¶öïþµî-b8öñögßèâCõu.zlÍâPFýÚ_D3ÍE4fÊÃ$CsS¿05Þzlcsß(µu ÙÐà]äø'\Å7X1è!XC3i MY%nBô48r8:VfËJA=`xÉåReÊMÚRm4Å}»Ìñ-æc8=Î#éÔz»¶üÑmÑ=Å Cy8jCÿkÈ~ákTµ§ïÏñX¿_G4ÿãñF~Hrmb+ zvn%¶øÒÇGzÝp]êUÚX:ékGPÉ`1îÆuÒâîz0\!µãZY,m^emBíÉwëâÚ s_BÚ#/%ÙwäKÖ^ÖÇþµ â@#I1ÓXj7æ çÁ%)ÃQL_82:s8ñS...
(0)
(0)
LTC Jason Mackay
PO3 Aaron Hassay - Rather than stand back an admire this problem or shoot holes in the logic of the construction of the argument, I am going to cut to the chase here. Here is what I would do here.
1. Scope the problem. If between this post and others I have seen you post here:
- You state that you were injured pursuant to reserve duty
- the combinations of injuries led you to a point where you are unemployed and destitute, with great personal loss
- The VA has denied your claims because you were a drilling reservist and therefore do not have veteran status that provide expanded access to treatment, compensation and resources.
- You state the nature of your enlistment put you in a status more akin to active duty (serving on a surface combatant) with out the protections and benefits available to active duty personnel.
- In another post you state you were maltreated (in the UCMJ sense of the word) by your immediate supervisors and department onboard. I believe you stated you were sexually assaulted.
The crux of this is is you were injured as a reservist and it was not addressed. This is your approach, not trying to weave an elaborate systemic conspiracy that indicts the entire service. These are concurrent conditions not direct causes. The actions and inaction of people you served with are the cause here. Likewise your actions and inactions will be scrutinized by someone trying to refute that claim.
2. Actions
- LOD Investigation: Were you ever the subject of a Line of Duty investigation for any of your injuries during your reserve time? This is how reservists get the injuries documented, treated and compensated. Your chain of command would be responsible for appointing and investigating officer and following up with findings. If this did not happen, this is where you start with your grievance and your claim. Your age and junior rank as aggravating factors (you didn't know what you didn't know)
- Your Enlistment Type: You were assigned to an active duty vessel, with an active duty chain of command. You were injured and they did not or didn't know to initiate a LOD. If you had any supernumerary reserve detachment chain of command the responsibility would be on them to initiate it. If you screwed up, who would be holding Mast for you? That is who should initiate a LOD. If you didn't have an LOD and you reported your injuries, I would write a congressman about that....not all the other stuff. That's your in. You were denied redress by the system and all you want is a chance to use the system.
- Assault: If you were sexually or physically assaulted on board I would include that in your succinct letter to your congressman. I would also state that due to the era, perceptions of gender and sexuality, and the sheer weight of the incident(s) you did not come forward. If possible, open a law enforcement investigation into your claim. If you show you were assaulted during that time, it welds service connection. Were there any treatment records from the time either by the military or in a civilian facility?
- Get a legal advocate: Get legal representation that works veteran's claims. Have them help you write these letters to representative etc.
- VA Claim: if you can show that due to the four things above, you went untreated and unaddressed, this may cause them to relook your veteran status and the validity of the claim.
- A word on congressional engagement: this is a shoot the moon type of thing, but there can be acts of congress for INDIVIDUALS seeking redress in very narrow specific circumstance where there is no other redress available.
- Your past posts on RP: these are a double edged sword. Looked at one way, they provide a narrative of your injuries, the circumstances and the impact to your life. In another way, they lay out your perseverance on a conspiracy that is tangential at best, ravings at the worst. Have your attorney review them and go back and edit them accordingly.
- Witness statements: get as many as you can. Doesn't necessarily have to be directly of the incident(s), but the day after where you were visibly injured, placing you on duty, on the ship or in the unit area. Conversations with shipmates from the time where you talk about theses things, etc
3. Follow up. Whenever there is a denial of claim address only the matter that was denied. Do not drag a bunch of other stuff in.
4. Abandon the arguments of conspiracy at the service level. This will not get you where you want. I have no dog in this fight. Ultimately each military service is really people doing things. Whether they are good, bad, negligent, criminal, etc its the people the service put there. When you drag in the service level conspiracy and try and blame it for the actions of individuals it makes denying the claim easier. I do think the experimental nature of the enlistment program you came in under can be leveraged to show extenuating circumstances about why a LOD was never conducted. That's your in.
5. Comparison to ROTC: This makes sense to you, but outside looking in, this makes no sense. You're wasting your time here. It distracts from the emotionally compelling things you state happened to you. ROTC Cadets are NOT service members they are in a unique limbo between civilians and servicemembers. They do not accrue veteran status, nor time in service for pay or benefits. They are also not a Navy Reservist assigned to an Active Duty Vessel. The situations are like apples and lawn chairs. Stick with what specifically happened to you.
6. Reserve Component Integration: This was the flavor of the month for DoD following Desert Storm. Certainly alive and well when we both came on in 1994. It is well documented in and out of the Pentagon. Certainly cite relevant and concise evidence that speak to your enlistment. Don't drag in a bunch of other stuff. It hurts your arguments. if the VA or an Attorney for the other side dives into any of this, your legal team can use your collection of articles and studies to refute. Stick to the personal part of this.
Take this advice or don't. I feel for you and your situation. I am not going to trade barbs on this thing. Whether or not I am an officer is irrelevant.
1. Scope the problem. If between this post and others I have seen you post here:
- You state that you were injured pursuant to reserve duty
- the combinations of injuries led you to a point where you are unemployed and destitute, with great personal loss
- The VA has denied your claims because you were a drilling reservist and therefore do not have veteran status that provide expanded access to treatment, compensation and resources.
- You state the nature of your enlistment put you in a status more akin to active duty (serving on a surface combatant) with out the protections and benefits available to active duty personnel.
- In another post you state you were maltreated (in the UCMJ sense of the word) by your immediate supervisors and department onboard. I believe you stated you were sexually assaulted.
The crux of this is is you were injured as a reservist and it was not addressed. This is your approach, not trying to weave an elaborate systemic conspiracy that indicts the entire service. These are concurrent conditions not direct causes. The actions and inaction of people you served with are the cause here. Likewise your actions and inactions will be scrutinized by someone trying to refute that claim.
2. Actions
- LOD Investigation: Were you ever the subject of a Line of Duty investigation for any of your injuries during your reserve time? This is how reservists get the injuries documented, treated and compensated. Your chain of command would be responsible for appointing and investigating officer and following up with findings. If this did not happen, this is where you start with your grievance and your claim. Your age and junior rank as aggravating factors (you didn't know what you didn't know)
- Your Enlistment Type: You were assigned to an active duty vessel, with an active duty chain of command. You were injured and they did not or didn't know to initiate a LOD. If you had any supernumerary reserve detachment chain of command the responsibility would be on them to initiate it. If you screwed up, who would be holding Mast for you? That is who should initiate a LOD. If you didn't have an LOD and you reported your injuries, I would write a congressman about that....not all the other stuff. That's your in. You were denied redress by the system and all you want is a chance to use the system.
- Assault: If you were sexually or physically assaulted on board I would include that in your succinct letter to your congressman. I would also state that due to the era, perceptions of gender and sexuality, and the sheer weight of the incident(s) you did not come forward. If possible, open a law enforcement investigation into your claim. If you show you were assaulted during that time, it welds service connection. Were there any treatment records from the time either by the military or in a civilian facility?
- Get a legal advocate: Get legal representation that works veteran's claims. Have them help you write these letters to representative etc.
- VA Claim: if you can show that due to the four things above, you went untreated and unaddressed, this may cause them to relook your veteran status and the validity of the claim.
- A word on congressional engagement: this is a shoot the moon type of thing, but there can be acts of congress for INDIVIDUALS seeking redress in very narrow specific circumstance where there is no other redress available.
- Your past posts on RP: these are a double edged sword. Looked at one way, they provide a narrative of your injuries, the circumstances and the impact to your life. In another way, they lay out your perseverance on a conspiracy that is tangential at best, ravings at the worst. Have your attorney review them and go back and edit them accordingly.
- Witness statements: get as many as you can. Doesn't necessarily have to be directly of the incident(s), but the day after where you were visibly injured, placing you on duty, on the ship or in the unit area. Conversations with shipmates from the time where you talk about theses things, etc
3. Follow up. Whenever there is a denial of claim address only the matter that was denied. Do not drag a bunch of other stuff in.
4. Abandon the arguments of conspiracy at the service level. This will not get you where you want. I have no dog in this fight. Ultimately each military service is really people doing things. Whether they are good, bad, negligent, criminal, etc its the people the service put there. When you drag in the service level conspiracy and try and blame it for the actions of individuals it makes denying the claim easier. I do think the experimental nature of the enlistment program you came in under can be leveraged to show extenuating circumstances about why a LOD was never conducted. That's your in.
5. Comparison to ROTC: This makes sense to you, but outside looking in, this makes no sense. You're wasting your time here. It distracts from the emotionally compelling things you state happened to you. ROTC Cadets are NOT service members they are in a unique limbo between civilians and servicemembers. They do not accrue veteran status, nor time in service for pay or benefits. They are also not a Navy Reservist assigned to an Active Duty Vessel. The situations are like apples and lawn chairs. Stick with what specifically happened to you.
6. Reserve Component Integration: This was the flavor of the month for DoD following Desert Storm. Certainly alive and well when we both came on in 1994. It is well documented in and out of the Pentagon. Certainly cite relevant and concise evidence that speak to your enlistment. Don't drag in a bunch of other stuff. It hurts your arguments. if the VA or an Attorney for the other side dives into any of this, your legal team can use your collection of articles and studies to refute. Stick to the personal part of this.
Take this advice or don't. I feel for you and your situation. I am not going to trade barbs on this thing. Whether or not I am an officer is irrelevant.
(1)
(0)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
I am taking your advice and thanks for being there and having a real conversation with me.
Is it a conspiracy theory to show this federal amicus that a legal group for veterans asked me to participate in, and use my case as a case study, termed unlawful
This is separate to my Navy assignment.
https://www.swords-to-plowshares.org/research-publications/monk-v-shulkin-amicus-brief
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR VETERANS CLAIMS
Argument
1. Veterans experience financial hardship, homelessness, threats to safety,
and increased health problems while they wait long periods for appeals
to resolve their entitlement to disability benefits
The result was crushing for A.H., and unlawful.
A.H.’s treatment records show that the VA’s errors and appellate
delay exacerbated his mental health problems. A.H. focused on the claims
process and on thoughts that the government was intentionally trying to
harm him to such an extent that he had difficulty engaging in day-to-day
activities.
After finally winning his appeal, A.H. was devastated when the
VA inexplicably rated his mental health disability at 0%.
However, this process added an additional nine months to his delay, which
meant nine more months that he remained homeless and unable to provide
for himself. Ex. A ¶¶ 13-14.
The medical record in A.H.’s case documented his lengthy history of severe
mental health symptoms and homelessness. After winning service
connection for his condition on appeal, the VA inexplicably rated his
disability at 0% without an examination.
While waiting for the resolution of his appeal, A.H. did not have enough
money to cover his basic needs and was homeless and estranged from his family. He
feared for his personal safety as he tried to navigate temporary solutions to his
homelessness and worried about his ability to feed and clothe himself
After finally winning his claim and receiving benefits, A.H. was able to
focus on other life goals instead of on minimal economic survival, safety, and the stress
of having his injuries and experiences denied. He followed through on VA-assisted
housing opportunities, moved into an apartment, and reported briefly being able to spend
time caring for his father, a Vietnam veteran, before his father passed away.
13. Grave errors during the VA examination to rate A.H.’s disability added to
the delay and distress A.H. endured. At the time the BVA granted A.H. service
connection, VA treatment records in his claims file documented years of his paranoid and
delusional thinking, chronic suicidal thoughts and prior suicide attempts, and chronically
low functioning. Inexplicably, without conducting an examination, and without
considering or referencing this clinical history, the VA assigned A.H. a 0% disability
rating in August 2016.
I mean it would sound like a conspiracy theory if I was the only one stating it. But this is government reports
The VA Oakland was being investigated for negligence 2015 while I was in their system. My Navy Army Transfer Permanent Medical DQ 1998, listed as evidence, and other in service medical diagnosis, and documented indigent and homeless, would not even equal enough get a homeless housing voucher approved.
https://www.disabledveterans.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/161014-OSC-Press-Release.pdf
WASHINGTON, D.C./October 13, 2016 – In a letter sent to the White House and Congress today, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) reported that the Veterans Affairs Regional Office (VARO) in Oakland, California, failed to process veterans’ benefits claims accurately and in a timely manner. This delayed the accurate payment of benefits to veterans and their dependents, in some cases by years. Three Oakland VARO whistleblowers came to OSC with disclosures of the Oakland VARO’s deficiencies, prompting an investigation. Those whistleblowers are Rustyann Brown, a former claims assistant, Roselyn Tolliver, a veterans service representative, and Lydia Cheney, a veterans service representative.
“The whistleblowers performed a public service by bringing to light the severe delays in processing veterans benefit claims and deserve our gratitude,” said Special Counsel Carolyn Lerner. “These delays are particularly disturbing since the applicants are disabled veterans and their dependents. No veteran should have to wait years before receiving the benefits they are owed for their service to this nation.”
Is it a conspiracy theory to show this federal amicus that a legal group for veterans asked me to participate in, and use my case as a case study, termed unlawful
This is separate to my Navy assignment.
https://www.swords-to-plowshares.org/research-publications/monk-v-shulkin-amicus-brief
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR VETERANS CLAIMS
Argument
1. Veterans experience financial hardship, homelessness, threats to safety,
and increased health problems while they wait long periods for appeals
to resolve their entitlement to disability benefits
The result was crushing for A.H., and unlawful.
A.H.’s treatment records show that the VA’s errors and appellate
delay exacerbated his mental health problems. A.H. focused on the claims
process and on thoughts that the government was intentionally trying to
harm him to such an extent that he had difficulty engaging in day-to-day
activities.
After finally winning his appeal, A.H. was devastated when the
VA inexplicably rated his mental health disability at 0%.
However, this process added an additional nine months to his delay, which
meant nine more months that he remained homeless and unable to provide
for himself. Ex. A ¶¶ 13-14.
The medical record in A.H.’s case documented his lengthy history of severe
mental health symptoms and homelessness. After winning service
connection for his condition on appeal, the VA inexplicably rated his
disability at 0% without an examination.
While waiting for the resolution of his appeal, A.H. did not have enough
money to cover his basic needs and was homeless and estranged from his family. He
feared for his personal safety as he tried to navigate temporary solutions to his
homelessness and worried about his ability to feed and clothe himself
After finally winning his claim and receiving benefits, A.H. was able to
focus on other life goals instead of on minimal economic survival, safety, and the stress
of having his injuries and experiences denied. He followed through on VA-assisted
housing opportunities, moved into an apartment, and reported briefly being able to spend
time caring for his father, a Vietnam veteran, before his father passed away.
13. Grave errors during the VA examination to rate A.H.’s disability added to
the delay and distress A.H. endured. At the time the BVA granted A.H. service
connection, VA treatment records in his claims file documented years of his paranoid and
delusional thinking, chronic suicidal thoughts and prior suicide attempts, and chronically
low functioning. Inexplicably, without conducting an examination, and without
considering or referencing this clinical history, the VA assigned A.H. a 0% disability
rating in August 2016.
I mean it would sound like a conspiracy theory if I was the only one stating it. But this is government reports
The VA Oakland was being investigated for negligence 2015 while I was in their system. My Navy Army Transfer Permanent Medical DQ 1998, listed as evidence, and other in service medical diagnosis, and documented indigent and homeless, would not even equal enough get a homeless housing voucher approved.
https://www.disabledveterans.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/161014-OSC-Press-Release.pdf
WASHINGTON, D.C./October 13, 2016 – In a letter sent to the White House and Congress today, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) reported that the Veterans Affairs Regional Office (VARO) in Oakland, California, failed to process veterans’ benefits claims accurately and in a timely manner. This delayed the accurate payment of benefits to veterans and their dependents, in some cases by years. Three Oakland VARO whistleblowers came to OSC with disclosures of the Oakland VARO’s deficiencies, prompting an investigation. Those whistleblowers are Rustyann Brown, a former claims assistant, Roselyn Tolliver, a veterans service representative, and Lydia Cheney, a veterans service representative.
“The whistleblowers performed a public service by bringing to light the severe delays in processing veterans benefit claims and deserve our gratitude,” said Special Counsel Carolyn Lerner. “These delays are particularly disturbing since the applicants are disabled veterans and their dependents. No veteran should have to wait years before receiving the benefits they are owed for their service to this nation.”
Swords to Plowshares and the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner filed an amicus brief on behalf of five veterans legal service providers supporting the petitioners in Monk v. Shulkin. The petitioners seek to aggregate a class of all veterans with VA disability benefits appeals delayed over one year. This brief addresses the due process harms of the unreasonable delay on veterans, who face acute financial hardships, homelessness, and increased...
(0)
(0)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
LTC Jason Mackay - I am taking your advice. We both joined in 1994! Right on good stuff. Thanks for talking and discussing.
If you have any particular posts I should edit let me know. I usually sit up here during covid in va housing alone with rallypoint that triggers me when I read other peoples posts about assaults, or other problems with commands, or even the tag term toxic leaderhsip.
None of these things I made up what I read on rallypoint. All the reports I reference on rallypoint for discussion have government links. So that can not be conspiracy theory if I am getting information from government reports is it?
Thanks for the intellectual debate as that is what I hope for.
I am not directing any negativity at you or to any other service member. I think I get misunderstood due mental health stigma, as I try to process, and understand my life through these government reports that I find and reference for discussion with other service members.
The military was the influential and deep a wound, that I am still at 44, looking for other service members to make it through and regroup
Again I do not target other service members. I am targeting reports for analyzing that are stating what some would say are conspiratorial type claims, If I said them, with no back up, about my enlistment and commands served.
I have been on many meds changed over years. I sit alone in this va housing no one to interact with.
I am trying to learn to date again and feel good and confident. I believe in healing. I don’t know how good healing would be if I never dealt with the reason you were injured.
I have not had a birthday celebration since maybe 20 years old, when I started getting sick on the ship, and my fiance and I started having friction, and i spiraled into a dark lonely trapped survival with the ever present danger of my assignment looming night and day on the ship, and I tried to transfer to the Army.
Do you know anyone that was 3p permanently profiled, medically disqualified during a branch transfer and sent back to their unit without a medical checkup or clearance for further duty?
Do you know of any units in your branch that a young e1 SELRES should not be assigned?
Do you know how much the annual pay for a young SELRES assigned a ship in the 1990s? Far below poverty and no health care access insurance.
So about a LOD. I was 18-23 yo on the ship and was not at all educated about the disability system. I was only taught in bootcamp to follow orders.
So as an adult, and after review, I finally can say with some accuracy,
The FullTime Crew were not obligated by any instruction to monitor me off the ship for the effects of duty. So essentially you would be taxed and sent home. The understaffed full time crew was not trying to feel responsible for some part time guy with no real experience, sent to them by some other command. What does that do to a young guys head about feeling safe and finding shipmates when you are sent into hot stuff every month worked hard and sent home confused and now I say in a state of shock?
Would anyone ever care to contemplate how a meritoriously graduated bootcamp recruit 1994 18 years of age, is so medically messed up, that in 1998 22 years old, he was Permanently Profiled for 3 medical issues stopping a Navy ARmy Transfer off the ship?
Yes assaults usually happen on junior enlisted who dont fit in to the normal crew, and that kind of treatment is seen starting in bootcamp, as the slower guy is always picked on, and the whole company pays. Guess what at night the company comes back to pay that slower guy a visit, and towel party is a known reality back in the 1990s. Heck a guy fell out of his top bunk, and died, without cause, while I was in bootcamp.
This is the third time I have heard from officers of our era about this total force transition during the 1990s. Would anyone consider a 18 year old e1 Selres might be at risk for injury who joined in 1994?
I looked at the definition of Conspiracy theory so we have a starting point to reference.
con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
/kənˈspirəsē ˈTHiərē,ˈTHirē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
Is my listing and quoting from actual government reports a conspiracy theory?
We join 1994
1997 gov report states “Participants will identify legislative and policy changes necessary to ensure members of the reserve components receive health care benefits that are consistent with the increased reliance on today's reserve force.”
MY 1998 Navy Army transfer was permanently medically profiled at MEPS, and I was sent back to the ship without medical care or treatment ever recorded in my service jacket.
https://archive.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=41152
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 24, 1997
Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen said Nov. 18 the summit will address the full spectrum of health care issues, entitlements and legislative policies affecting the readiness of reserve components in the post-Cold War world.
In Phase I, slated for late November in Washington, summit participants will evaluate prevailing laws and policy relating to reserve component health care.
Participants will identify legislative and policy changes necessary to ensure members of the reserve components receive health care benefits that are consistent with the increased reliance on today's reserve force.
"We have a vested interest in the health readiness of our reserve component personnel," said Dr. Ed Martin, acting assistant secretary of defense for health affairs.
Recognizing the increased reliance on the reserve components in recent years, Cohen said, "We must ensure their medical readiness to achieve a truly integrated total force. I am pleased that this summit is a partnership effort - with the DoD, the private sector and VA all working together."
(from a DoD release)
Contact Author
“Navy initiated the Sea/Air Mariner (SAM) program to attract new recruits to the Naval Reserve by offering tuition assistance. However, this program proved unsuccessful because its benefits and 6-year obligation compared unfavorably with Army and Air Force programs.66”
DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY COMNAVRESFORINST 1100.4A O9 FEB 1994
Subj:ENLISTED NAVAL SELECTED RESERVE (SELRES) INCENTIVE PROGRAMS
4. SAM Educational Assistance Payments. Individuals who are a secondary school graduate and completed IADT, including rate training or sufficient training to be deployable are entitled to initial and subsequent Educational Assistance. Payment cannot exceed $1,000 in any 12 month period based on the enlistment anniversary date) or a total of $4,000
A. MANAGEMENT
In 1988, Naval Reserve CINCPACFLT Detachment 420
(CINCPACFLT DET 420) conducted a management review and
organizational analysis of the Naval Reserve. The CINCPACFLT
Det 420 Management Assistance Team (MAT) was tasked by the
Director of Naval Reserve to conduct this analysis. Although
the emphasis was on the Naval Reserve Surface Force and
CNAVRES organization as a whole, their analysis addressed
issues encountered by the Naval Air Reserve Force as well.
The MAT findings maintained that the administrative and
organizational problems facing the Naval Reserve were a result
of the Naval Reserve operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives. (CINCPACFLT DET
420, 1988)
https://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/handle/10945/39784/93Jun_Dudolevitch.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
A cost comparison between active and naval reserve force FFG-7 class ships
This thesis is a cost comparison between Active Fleet and Naval Reserve Force (NRF)
VIII. CONCLUSION
A. TOTAL SAVINGS
The bottom line is that sending an FFG from the Active
Fleet to the Naval Reserve Force saves about $979,000 per year, or about 6.1% of all operating and support costs.
https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/3715654/FID863/SURFACE/50401.PDF
1995 5040.1
1. Purpose. To issue policy, provide guidance, and assign responsibility for RATE of Selected Reserve (SELRES)components in the Naval Reserve Force (NRF) ships.
3. Background The RATE program was initiated in response to a Navy Inspector General report documenting systemic weaknesses in the training and administration of SELRES personnel assigned to NRF ships. Historically, NRF ships and their SELRES components fell outside the cognizance of normal Reserve Readiness Inspectionsand, as a result, did not receive periodic formal oversight of the administration and training of the SELRES component.
1997 Department of Navy
3502.1B Surface Master Training Plan
1205. Training Philosophy. The Naval Surface Reserve Force is primarily focused on requirements-based training. Per. OPNAVINST 1001.21.A These training requirements must mirror the training required of the Reservist’s active duty counterpart performing the same duties.
Implementing the Naval Surface Reserve Force training program requires an understanding of systemic restrictions peculiar to the Surface Reserve Force. Drill Limitations
Drill Limitations. Reserve Training is limited and must be used to maximize mobilization readiness.
1303. Naval Reserve NRF Training Requirements. The specified wartime mission for NRF units requires that training requirements remain the same as for active duty counterparts to provide a benchmark for measuring the actual status of NRF readiness.
1504. Naval Reserve Force (NRF) Readiness Criteria. NRF units are generally tasked with the same training requirements as their active
duty counterparts. However, due to limited days underway with selected reservists embarked, and limited availability of inport trainers, these
units may experience training degradation beyond their control.
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a293960.pdf
TELL THE TRUTH: CAN THE OPERATIONAL COMMANDER RELY ON THE ADVERTISED CAPABILITIES OF THE NAVAL RESERVE FORCE’S SURFACE ASSETS?
LCDR THOMAS M. ROSSI, USN.
ABSTRACT
Over 31% of the United States Navy's combatant surface
escort force are guided missile frigates (FFGs) assigned to the
Naval Reserve Force (NRF).
So the following question is a bit of an intellectual question.
So in my own review I reference a 1963 Congressional Report about the Constitutional Rights of which You swore an oath to defend in the Constitution and the Constitutions Preamble. I was not even able to go the VA and get a homeless housing voucher, with my enlistment because I was told I did not have enough active duty days after 8 years of honorable.
1963 88th Congress Actually Debates “Constitutional Rights of Military Personnel”
PREFACE
No persons should be more entitled to protection of their constitutional rights than the servicemen engaged in protecting the sovereignty of the United States
10 U.S.C. § 502 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 10. Armed
Forces § 502. Enlistment oath: who may administer
(a) Enlistment oath. --Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
“I, _______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
The U.S. Constitution: Preamble
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
(Interesting as it is, Congress has held committees to examine “Constitutional Rights of Military Personnel”)
Best
If you have any particular posts I should edit let me know. I usually sit up here during covid in va housing alone with rallypoint that triggers me when I read other peoples posts about assaults, or other problems with commands, or even the tag term toxic leaderhsip.
None of these things I made up what I read on rallypoint. All the reports I reference on rallypoint for discussion have government links. So that can not be conspiracy theory if I am getting information from government reports is it?
Thanks for the intellectual debate as that is what I hope for.
I am not directing any negativity at you or to any other service member. I think I get misunderstood due mental health stigma, as I try to process, and understand my life through these government reports that I find and reference for discussion with other service members.
The military was the influential and deep a wound, that I am still at 44, looking for other service members to make it through and regroup
Again I do not target other service members. I am targeting reports for analyzing that are stating what some would say are conspiratorial type claims, If I said them, with no back up, about my enlistment and commands served.
I have been on many meds changed over years. I sit alone in this va housing no one to interact with.
I am trying to learn to date again and feel good and confident. I believe in healing. I don’t know how good healing would be if I never dealt with the reason you were injured.
I have not had a birthday celebration since maybe 20 years old, when I started getting sick on the ship, and my fiance and I started having friction, and i spiraled into a dark lonely trapped survival with the ever present danger of my assignment looming night and day on the ship, and I tried to transfer to the Army.
Do you know anyone that was 3p permanently profiled, medically disqualified during a branch transfer and sent back to their unit without a medical checkup or clearance for further duty?
Do you know of any units in your branch that a young e1 SELRES should not be assigned?
Do you know how much the annual pay for a young SELRES assigned a ship in the 1990s? Far below poverty and no health care access insurance.
So about a LOD. I was 18-23 yo on the ship and was not at all educated about the disability system. I was only taught in bootcamp to follow orders.
So as an adult, and after review, I finally can say with some accuracy,
The FullTime Crew were not obligated by any instruction to monitor me off the ship for the effects of duty. So essentially you would be taxed and sent home. The understaffed full time crew was not trying to feel responsible for some part time guy with no real experience, sent to them by some other command. What does that do to a young guys head about feeling safe and finding shipmates when you are sent into hot stuff every month worked hard and sent home confused and now I say in a state of shock?
Would anyone ever care to contemplate how a meritoriously graduated bootcamp recruit 1994 18 years of age, is so medically messed up, that in 1998 22 years old, he was Permanently Profiled for 3 medical issues stopping a Navy ARmy Transfer off the ship?
Yes assaults usually happen on junior enlisted who dont fit in to the normal crew, and that kind of treatment is seen starting in bootcamp, as the slower guy is always picked on, and the whole company pays. Guess what at night the company comes back to pay that slower guy a visit, and towel party is a known reality back in the 1990s. Heck a guy fell out of his top bunk, and died, without cause, while I was in bootcamp.
This is the third time I have heard from officers of our era about this total force transition during the 1990s. Would anyone consider a 18 year old e1 Selres might be at risk for injury who joined in 1994?
I looked at the definition of Conspiracy theory so we have a starting point to reference.
con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
/kənˈspirəsē ˈTHiərē,ˈTHirē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
Is my listing and quoting from actual government reports a conspiracy theory?
We join 1994
1997 gov report states “Participants will identify legislative and policy changes necessary to ensure members of the reserve components receive health care benefits that are consistent with the increased reliance on today's reserve force.”
MY 1998 Navy Army transfer was permanently medically profiled at MEPS, and I was sent back to the ship without medical care or treatment ever recorded in my service jacket.
https://archive.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=41152
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 24, 1997
Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen said Nov. 18 the summit will address the full spectrum of health care issues, entitlements and legislative policies affecting the readiness of reserve components in the post-Cold War world.
In Phase I, slated for late November in Washington, summit participants will evaluate prevailing laws and policy relating to reserve component health care.
Participants will identify legislative and policy changes necessary to ensure members of the reserve components receive health care benefits that are consistent with the increased reliance on today's reserve force.
"We have a vested interest in the health readiness of our reserve component personnel," said Dr. Ed Martin, acting assistant secretary of defense for health affairs.
Recognizing the increased reliance on the reserve components in recent years, Cohen said, "We must ensure their medical readiness to achieve a truly integrated total force. I am pleased that this summit is a partnership effort - with the DoD, the private sector and VA all working together."
(from a DoD release)
Contact Author
“Navy initiated the Sea/Air Mariner (SAM) program to attract new recruits to the Naval Reserve by offering tuition assistance. However, this program proved unsuccessful because its benefits and 6-year obligation compared unfavorably with Army and Air Force programs.66”
DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY COMNAVRESFORINST 1100.4A O9 FEB 1994
Subj:ENLISTED NAVAL SELECTED RESERVE (SELRES) INCENTIVE PROGRAMS
4. SAM Educational Assistance Payments. Individuals who are a secondary school graduate and completed IADT, including rate training or sufficient training to be deployable are entitled to initial and subsequent Educational Assistance. Payment cannot exceed $1,000 in any 12 month period based on the enlistment anniversary date) or a total of $4,000
A. MANAGEMENT
In 1988, Naval Reserve CINCPACFLT Detachment 420
(CINCPACFLT DET 420) conducted a management review and
organizational analysis of the Naval Reserve. The CINCPACFLT
Det 420 Management Assistance Team (MAT) was tasked by the
Director of Naval Reserve to conduct this analysis. Although
the emphasis was on the Naval Reserve Surface Force and
CNAVRES organization as a whole, their analysis addressed
issues encountered by the Naval Air Reserve Force as well.
The MAT findings maintained that the administrative and
organizational problems facing the Naval Reserve were a result
of the Naval Reserve operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives. (CINCPACFLT DET
420, 1988)
https://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/handle/10945/39784/93Jun_Dudolevitch.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
A cost comparison between active and naval reserve force FFG-7 class ships
This thesis is a cost comparison between Active Fleet and Naval Reserve Force (NRF)
VIII. CONCLUSION
A. TOTAL SAVINGS
The bottom line is that sending an FFG from the Active
Fleet to the Naval Reserve Force saves about $979,000 per year, or about 6.1% of all operating and support costs.
https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/3715654/FID863/SURFACE/50401.PDF
1995 5040.1
1. Purpose. To issue policy, provide guidance, and assign responsibility for RATE of Selected Reserve (SELRES)components in the Naval Reserve Force (NRF) ships.
3. Background The RATE program was initiated in response to a Navy Inspector General report documenting systemic weaknesses in the training and administration of SELRES personnel assigned to NRF ships. Historically, NRF ships and their SELRES components fell outside the cognizance of normal Reserve Readiness Inspectionsand, as a result, did not receive periodic formal oversight of the administration and training of the SELRES component.
1997 Department of Navy
3502.1B Surface Master Training Plan
1205. Training Philosophy. The Naval Surface Reserve Force is primarily focused on requirements-based training. Per. OPNAVINST 1001.21.A These training requirements must mirror the training required of the Reservist’s active duty counterpart performing the same duties.
Implementing the Naval Surface Reserve Force training program requires an understanding of systemic restrictions peculiar to the Surface Reserve Force. Drill Limitations
Drill Limitations. Reserve Training is limited and must be used to maximize mobilization readiness.
1303. Naval Reserve NRF Training Requirements. The specified wartime mission for NRF units requires that training requirements remain the same as for active duty counterparts to provide a benchmark for measuring the actual status of NRF readiness.
1504. Naval Reserve Force (NRF) Readiness Criteria. NRF units are generally tasked with the same training requirements as their active
duty counterparts. However, due to limited days underway with selected reservists embarked, and limited availability of inport trainers, these
units may experience training degradation beyond their control.
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a293960.pdf
TELL THE TRUTH: CAN THE OPERATIONAL COMMANDER RELY ON THE ADVERTISED CAPABILITIES OF THE NAVAL RESERVE FORCE’S SURFACE ASSETS?
LCDR THOMAS M. ROSSI, USN.
ABSTRACT
Over 31% of the United States Navy's combatant surface
escort force are guided missile frigates (FFGs) assigned to the
Naval Reserve Force (NRF).
So the following question is a bit of an intellectual question.
So in my own review I reference a 1963 Congressional Report about the Constitutional Rights of which You swore an oath to defend in the Constitution and the Constitutions Preamble. I was not even able to go the VA and get a homeless housing voucher, with my enlistment because I was told I did not have enough active duty days after 8 years of honorable.
1963 88th Congress Actually Debates “Constitutional Rights of Military Personnel”
PREFACE
No persons should be more entitled to protection of their constitutional rights than the servicemen engaged in protecting the sovereignty of the United States
10 U.S.C. § 502 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 10. Armed
Forces § 502. Enlistment oath: who may administer
(a) Enlistment oath. --Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
“I, _______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
The U.S. Constitution: Preamble
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
(Interesting as it is, Congress has held committees to examine “Constitutional Rights of Military Personnel”)
Best
United States Department of Defense (defense.gov)
The content available is no longer being updated and may no longer be applicable as a result of changes in law, regulation and/or administration. If you wish to see the latest content, please visit the current version of the site.
(0)
(0)
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google