Posted on Jun 11, 2015
What really grinds your gears concerning double standard that exist in your branch of service or your MOS?
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Standards are something that are written, and enforced however, I hear there are double standards across every branch and across most MOS's. What have you seen that is a double standard or lack of enforcing standards across your branch of service or across your MOS?
Here's a couple that I often hear:
- since combat arms branches will be open to females, why aren't the PT test requirements the same for males and females?
- Officers can give 49% top blocks for the OER but the new NCOER will only allow 24% of NCOs to receive the top block
- UCMJ punishment based on rank
ok.....just a couple examples of what I've heard lately, what grinds your gears concerning double standards?
Here's a couple that I often hear:
- since combat arms branches will be open to females, why aren't the PT test requirements the same for males and females?
- Officers can give 49% top blocks for the OER but the new NCOER will only allow 24% of NCOs to receive the top block
- UCMJ punishment based on rank
ok.....just a couple examples of what I've heard lately, what grinds your gears concerning double standards?
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USAREC - weekly my center commanded sends to the BN a work hour spreadsheet of how many hours each soldier will work. This week we have an event all weekend so the work hours were lower throughout the week to appease the LTC (weds, thurs COB at 1500). However, we work until 1900 or 2000 still with the 1SG as well knowing that a complete lie was sent to a ranking officer. If your gonna work me everyday to the bone give me the credit don't lie!
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For me, it's the inherent nature of the beast that is the Military Police Corps. In most deployment scenarios, an MP Company has two separate and distinctive command chains that they must report and are accountable to.
You have your MP chain of command, who have oversight of your primary mission and responsible for providing you with the essential equipment and personnel support to accomplish this mission. Your proximity to your BN and BDE HQ is irrelevant.
Simultaneously, you are also dropped at a FOB or Base that is within the geographic area in which your Unit will execute it's mission. This is when your relationship with your Battlespace Landowner begins. A Landowner is typically a Combat Arms element (INF, AR, CAV) BDE or BN, contingent upon the geographic size and/or the population density of the given battlespace. Whereas you and your people will be living among these people for a full year, it behooves you to get along. Additionally, they are ultimately responsible and have final say over all activities occurring within their battlespace, so a toxic relationship could make accomplishing your mission a challenge! Just as you owe daily accountability and SI reports to your MP chain, you must also do so with your landowner, just in a different format.
I could go on and on, but ultimately, the Bible says a man is not to serve two masters, but the MP Corps says otherwise!
You have your MP chain of command, who have oversight of your primary mission and responsible for providing you with the essential equipment and personnel support to accomplish this mission. Your proximity to your BN and BDE HQ is irrelevant.
Simultaneously, you are also dropped at a FOB or Base that is within the geographic area in which your Unit will execute it's mission. This is when your relationship with your Battlespace Landowner begins. A Landowner is typically a Combat Arms element (INF, AR, CAV) BDE or BN, contingent upon the geographic size and/or the population density of the given battlespace. Whereas you and your people will be living among these people for a full year, it behooves you to get along. Additionally, they are ultimately responsible and have final say over all activities occurring within their battlespace, so a toxic relationship could make accomplishing your mission a challenge! Just as you owe daily accountability and SI reports to your MP chain, you must also do so with your landowner, just in a different format.
I could go on and on, but ultimately, the Bible says a man is not to serve two masters, but the MP Corps says otherwise!
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I remember while I was up in Minot, they ended up moving all other AFSCs out of the dorm & put all the SFs in one dorm because of the 'complaints' from other AFSCs that we were all "out to get them". We couldn't care less about the other guys so long as they weren't blasting their damned radios @ 0300!! LOL.
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MAJ (Join to see)
COL Charles Williams, I should have clarified, Sir, this unique, privileged pain that I described is felt exclusively by Company Commanders when deployed.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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There is certainly a lot of truth to what you said. That it all works out is a testament to leadership, soldiers, versatility, professionalism, and mission-oriented focus of the Military Police Corps. Of course, I am not at all unbiased... :-)
There is certainly a lot of truth to what you said. That it all works out is a testament to leadership, soldiers, versatility, professionalism, and mission-oriented focus of the Military Police Corps. Of course, I am not at all unbiased... :-)
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig Not my case but, getting Flagged for overweight or PT Failure from a 1SG that looks bigger than you and doesn't do PT oftenly, might have an impact in the person flagged. Doesn't justify at all being overweight or the APFT failure but, what would be the consequences of an E-4 and below being flagged against an E-6 and above? Just an example.
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COL Charles Williams
That guy was my 1SG in 2/6 Cav when I was a 2LT SGT(P) (Join to see) :). He was yell every morning about PT and weight, and was huge....
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COL Charles Williams there are some Senior NCO's that I see them and I ask myself, what happened? Because it is not easy to get there, it definitely wasn't given, so what happened? Did they got there and lay back?
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