Posted on Jul 12, 2015
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Sun your not so hot! How much credibility do you put into climate science?
Great article with a video by NASA explaining the sun cycle.
Great article with a video by NASA explaining the sun cycle.
Climate Change
Science
Environment
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Polar Special Part 1 - Top Gear - BBC
Part one of three. In one of their most ambitious challenges, Jeremy, James and Richard attempt to race from Northern Canada to the North Pole, a 450-mile jo...
Weather and climate is the result of a complex and fluid interaction of innumerable factors, far more than we realize, far, far more than we build into our computer models. This explains why the computer models that "experts" have been using to predict climatic change have universally failed. For example, remember how we were told that polar ice was going to disappear by 1990? Watch the boys from the Top Gear show transit polar ice from Canada to the North Pole. According to the experts they should have drowned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkvASxfEWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkvASxfEWQ
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Cpl Tim Lang
You hit the nail on the head Captain. In physics, climatology, and other fields we are bombarded with model based theories that do not account for all of the variables. As a result, they fail. It seems to me that if we read NASA's data on climate change, compare it to physical laws and the climate history that we know, then the more logical conclusion is that perceived climate change is more of a natural process.
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I won't believe anything until the deomocrats say we have to believe this or we don't get to eat.
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Capt Seid Waddell
SSG (ret) William Martin, or that climate change hits the poor and minorities disproportionately.
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I'm still on the global warming side, I think the proof of all the glacier melting at level not seen in modern times as an issue to watch.
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Capt Seid Waddell
LCpl Mark Lefler, exactly. Atmospheric CO2 was natural then and it still is natural now; it is the result of a warming climate and not the cause. It is plant food and a normal part of respiration for all O2 using life forms
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SGT Matthew Ellis
Capt Seid Waddell - as a chemist that is insane. The temperature increase required to release that quantity would kill most everything. More importantly, the idea that increasing CO2 levels is good because it is plant food is even more ridiculous. For starters, our ability to breathe relies on oxygen. You increase the percentage of CO2 in the air and the mole fraction of O2 drops. That is bad if you need that O2. And more CO2 does not make plants grow better. Were that true, we wouldn't have all of this excess carbon in the atmosphere because they'd be gobbling it up to grow better. Of course we are also whiping out half our plant life as well, but I'm sure that isn't a problem either.
Not saying panick, but I am saying don't go listening to politicians from either side who clearly have an agenda. Nor should you listen to studies funded by groups with agendas. Find an independent study conducted at a university. Not hard. Or better, learn about the relevant science yourself and you can draw conclusions from data that make sense.
Not saying panick, but I am saying don't go listening to politicians from either side who clearly have an agenda. Nor should you listen to studies funded by groups with agendas. Find an independent study conducted at a university. Not hard. Or better, learn about the relevant science yourself and you can draw conclusions from data that make sense.
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SSgt (Join to see)
The problem (as a Chemist) is that you do not know about the various levels of the atmosphere and the variability all the way up to 100mb to assume that much. At the very least there is convection and advection as two primary modes of change. This setup is elaborate and too elaborate for snapshots which are nothing more than op-ed stuff.
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