Posted on Jul 14, 2015
DA Pam 670-1 announced that both Officers and Warrant Officers will wear the Coat of Arms of the US Army. What are your thoughts?
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The "Eagle Rising" has been the symbol of the Army Warrant Officer for going on a hundred years. With the change to wearing the Army Coat of Arms is another piece of tradition falling by the wayside? Or is this something we should embrace? Officers how do you feel about this?
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I do not understand why traditions are falling away from our military? Warrants should be recognized as such. Those connections to the past are what inspire the future leaders and service members of our military forces. Do you agree?
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CW3 Kevin Storm, I must comment for a couple of reasons and please do not take it the wrong way as I mentor publically in a thread such as this. The ARSTAFF SWO and the team of Chief Warrant Officer Fives concluded that we need to give that part up already as it has changed on the uniform a decade ago. The fact that things like the "EAGLE RISING" and not "Rising Eagle" have stuck around is the lack of representation at the senior levels when AR and FM were changed to reflect new and developing policies. Us being a cohort must first be able to represent the proper Eagle (ER versus RE).
Lastly my immediate attention was drawn not so much to the subject as it was the misspelling of the word announced in the title of your question. As warrant officers, the most critical thing we can do is communicate and be the SMEs for the force of the future. Credibility is jeopardized when we do not either properly express ourselves or don't check our six (misspell).
The coat of arms is fine for the head gear, the fact that is not brought up that the now defined Field Grade warrant officers are not wearing scrambled eggs on the hat is probably a better question than the Eagle Rising versus the Coat of Arms.
Just my .02 and like I said, have thick skin and drive on, looks like the voters are wishing to keep the Eagle, but I assure you that it probably will not return.
Lastly my immediate attention was drawn not so much to the subject as it was the misspelling of the word announced in the title of your question. As warrant officers, the most critical thing we can do is communicate and be the SMEs for the force of the future. Credibility is jeopardized when we do not either properly express ourselves or don't check our six (misspell).
The coat of arms is fine for the head gear, the fact that is not brought up that the now defined Field Grade warrant officers are not wearing scrambled eggs on the hat is probably a better question than the Eagle Rising versus the Coat of Arms.
Just my .02 and like I said, have thick skin and drive on, looks like the voters are wishing to keep the Eagle, but I assure you that it probably will not return.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
No offense taken Chief, when you are out here in the hinter lands of the NG world as an MDAY it is easy to forget terms.
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Stephen Poole
"Credibility is jeopardized when we do not either properly express ourselves or don't check our six (misspell)."
Please look at your very first sentence: "publically."
Then, this:
"Us being a cohort must first be able to represent the proper Eagle."
If you had "checked your six," you would have changed that to, "We, being a cohort, must first be able to refer to the proper name of the Eagle (ER versus RE). Or even better: "As a cohort, we must first..."
Please look at your very first sentence: "publically."
Then, this:
"Us being a cohort must first be able to represent the proper Eagle."
If you had "checked your six," you would have changed that to, "We, being a cohort, must first be able to refer to the proper name of the Eagle (ER versus RE). Or even better: "As a cohort, we must first..."
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
Stephen Poole - I am from Alabama Stephen and my wife gets on me all the time for such things. I am human and do make mistakes and while my English and Human error can jeopardize my credibility, I own my mistakes and appreciate the candor and poke regardless of how pointed it may be. Thank you for correcting me, maybe I can hold my credibility in flying helicopters and not English.
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This has been a highly debated topic on RallyPoint in the past. I think there is a balance that can be established between wearing the "Eagle Rising" and keeping the history of it alive. It is a symbol of our history, and as such, it should be remembered and displayed proudly where appropriate to celebrate our lineage and the Warrant Officers that came before us.
https://warrantofficerhistory.org/Hist_WO_Insignia.htm
https://warrantofficerhistory.org/Hist_WO_Insignia.htm
WARRANT OFFICER INSIGNIA OF GRADE - Warrant Officer Historical Foundation
The Army Institute of Heraldry's Rank Insignia Section, Warrant Officer Page
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