Posted on Jul 27, 2015
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Presidnetial hopeful and former Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) has a solution for move theater shootings like the one Thursday night in Lafayette, Louisiana: Allow guns inside.

"I think that it makes a lot of sense to send a message across this country," Perry told Jake Tapper on CNN's State of the Union. "If we believe in the Second Amendment, and we believe in people's right to protect themselves and defend themselves, and their families."

In Louisiana, it's legal to carry a firearm without a permit, but the site of the shooting, like many theaters, enforces a ban on guns.

"I believe, with all my heart, that if you have the citizens who are well trained, and particularly in these places that are considered to be gun-free zones, that we can stop that type of activity, or stop it before there’s as many people that are impacted as what we saw in Lafayette," Perry said.

Or would this just kick off a 100 x 100 firefight in a theater?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html
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Capt Richard I P.
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"Gun free zones" are defense free zones. Two way gunfights always have lower body counts than one way gunfights.
I avoid areas where the right to bear arms is denied whenever possible. A fighting chance is all I ask.
The most egregious defense free zones are military facilities. In a tragically ironic twist. Maybe we should fix it. Maybe we should arm the Armed Forces. https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces
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Hi, SPC Allbright.

The failure in Perry’s argument is “appropriately trained civilians” and “trained carriers.” He mentions each in the article. In my state, anyone 21 or over that passes a criminal background check, conducted by the FBI’s NICS branch, can legally purchase a gun from a federal firearms licensee, and get a concealed carry permit from their county of residence. By no means does their ability to obtain a gun suggest they’re appropriately trained to carry it, much less engage a hostile target. Everyone here knows that.

Engaging a hostile target. What others have said is correct. Engaging a target in a crowded, dark space that just went to Hell because of an active shooter is begging for trouble. But so will rushing the doors trying to get out. All you can do is shelter and secure in place.

Having said that, I carry mine concealed. If the theatre doesn’t want me to carry, then I don’t need to see the movie that much. After Aurora and now Louisiana, it’s just gotten that bad.

And Rick. Take your finger off the damn trigger.
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SSgt Aaron Kinnaman
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i have to say, i am uneasy in theaters now... and it isn't because of lawful gun carriers!
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SSgt Aaron Kinnaman , I was expecting follow-on attacks after Aurora. I did perimeter sweeps of the theatre the next time I went, looking for cars parked against exits, checked the exits in the theatre, and briefed those with me what to do if something went down. I try to be the first one in the theatre, so I can sum everyone else up in a bottleneck when the walk in. It's gotten ridiculous.
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SGT Ben Keen
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And here we go again. Sure let's just allow guns everywhere, that will stop all the shootings, heck it might cure cancer too. No, this is a dumb idea. Have people not learned their lesson that people aren't careful enough sometimes with their own "protective firearms"? We saw the the two ADs by the civilians "guarding" the recruiting stations, so do people want to see an AD in a crowded theater?
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SGT Ben Keen
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AD = Accidental Discharge

And I agree, or what if someone thinks a sound effect is actually the real thing. Just like we were discussing about protecting recruiters last week, there is no "good solution" to the issue.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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I know what an AD is. If an AD would be bad enough, what about having 50 people intentionally firing?
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SGT Ben Keen
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. - Oh okay, sorry I totally misread your comment. Yeah, ADs seem like nothing in the case you outlined.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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And when all these folks start running out of the theater with guns drawn how do the police stop the chaos, eliminate suspects and identify the shooter (if they are not already down)?
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