Posted on Aug 23, 2014
Addressing a MSG, SFC & SSG as “Sergeant.” Does anyone else think this is disrespectful?
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I feel as if I’m speaking to a Master Sergeant, Sergeant First Class or Staff Sergeant, they need to be addressed as their full rank and not “Sergeant.”
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 123
I don't find it disrespectful. Saying Master Sergeant is a mouthfull, especially when I'm identifying myself over the phone. Too many service members get on a power trip of being called by ther full rank, and it serves no purpose. Unless you're in a 1SG billet, or have been promoted to Sergeants Major, then there is no good reason to have Soldiers running around addressing you by your full title. And our regulations state Soldiers can address SGT-MSG as sergeant.
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CSM Charles Hayden
Identifying myself as SGM Hayden when speaking on the phone to any military member works - respect instantly manifests!
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I work with a MSG on Battalion Staff. I address him as Master Sergeant. He earned the MSG rank and I will address him as such.
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I have always addressed Sergeants through Master Sergeant as Sergeant. However I came to a new unit in the last couple weeks and it appears that they address Master Sergeants with their full rank.
The real issue I have seen with the regulation and addressing NCOS now days is text etiquette. When my old Platoon Sergeants would text me, I never knew how to respond.
Roger SGT?
Roger SFC?
Roger Sergeant?
The real issue I have seen with the regulation and addressing NCOS now days is text etiquette. When my old Platoon Sergeants would text me, I never knew how to respond.
Roger SGT?
Roger SFC?
Roger Sergeant?
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As many have pointed out, it is not disrespectful. It is what we are supposed to do. I will sometimes refer to Master Sergeants by their full title, and in my unit we have a bunch of SGT Rivera's so I will refer to them by full rank, especially as we have one at each rank E5-E8, we had two E6's one male, one female but the male retired.
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This may sound odd but for a Sergeant First Class or Staff Sergeant during 6 years of active duty I called either Sergeant with zero corrections. But knowing the T.I.S. and T.I.G. requirements for MSG I always address them by the full title. There are performance promotions as well but E-9 is hard to attain. I have a tremendous amount of respect for them all.
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks,
Rick
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It depends on the situation. I was a "Sergeant" (SSgt, TSgt for over 10, MSgt for just a few months) for many years in the Air Force. Now I'm a SFC in the TN State Guard. I still get called "Sergeant".
Being called "Sergeant" or even "Sarge" never bothered me unless I knew the speaker was deliberately trying to be disrespectful.
THAT was a whole separate issue dealt with as needed.
Being called "Sergeant" or even "Sarge" never bothered me unless I knew the speaker was deliberately trying to be disrespectful.
THAT was a whole separate issue dealt with as needed.
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Sounds like some ppl just want to make things more difficult. Because in combat I'm gonna be able to yell your full rank.... You know right before I yell you we're taking contact.
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You'd better get it right in the Marines or you'll be picking yourself up off the deck!
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
Right you are Sgt! I still remember the time as a young troop (E-3 at the time) I referred to a Gunnery Sergeant as "Sergeant". He took a small amount of pity on me as I was "to stupid to know better"! My posterior is still a little sore from the chewing I got that day.... lol
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When I was coming up in the Army I was taught that the proper term of address was Sergeant. It was also an unwritten rule that if you made a point of calling someone by their full rank in everyday situations it was a sign that you respected the rank, but not the individual wearing it. That made it a little difficult for me when I became a Navy Chaplain and got assigned to a Marine Corps unit. Calling someone Staff Sergeant So-and-So or Master Sergeant So-and-So was ingrained in me as being disrespectful. Took a while to get used to.
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I never understood why in the Army everyone one from Sgt up was called a Sgt. While recruiting I was promoted to SSgt. I had several conversations with the Army recruiters about addressing myself and the other snco's by their rank. When I spoke with their snco's I addressed them by their rank. I think you should address all personnel by their proper rank.
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SSG John Conquest
There you go a whole different entity "recruiting" you have to set an example to the new people coming in, but in my case in line units you don't need all of that reformatories, have of the privets aren't even called by rank, by the last names or nick names only. You probably remember being called by your last name or nick name.
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SSgt Dan Montague
Not really. Once you hit the rank of Cpl your are always addressed by your rank. Yes some Marines had nicknames, but only the jr E-3 and below used them sometimes. Recruiting wasn't just setting the example for the kids, It was doing what we do. There is only one rank that has a nickname and that is MSgt. Most will be called top.
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