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I spent some time on subs in the early '80s. My understanding was that Navy Op-Sec security restrictions would end after 30 years. My current understanding is that around 2008 that restrictions were extended to 50 years. Is that true? I can't find any discussions or comments, much less the Executive Order (I don't think it was legislated, if so I can't find it). I'm pretty good with Google too. I'd like to write a book for my nieces about that time. Its been almost 40 years of peace now. We won the Cold War.
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Try contacting the nearest Navy base and ask for the personal security or OPSEC office. They should be able to give you the most up to date information.
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I was a civilian for about 30 years until I was legally obligated to prove Health Care protection. But, now that all that comes flooding back (as we in the sub service say). Now, I reminisce of the 'bad old days' and my obligations and the governments obligations to me. And how come the VA wants to see my taxes! I am under audit. I don't even work for the government anymore. And, I want my Social Security back, with interest. But, I'm old and it is your grand kids future. The book will be great. Thus my inquiries. I'm re-reading the SF-312, to my dismay. I knew I needed glasses then too!
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Forgot to attach this excerpt from SF-312.
“Unless and until I am released in writing by an authorized representative of the United States Government, I understand that all conditions an obligations imposed upon me by this agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified information, and at all times thereafter.”
“Unless and until I am released in writing by an authorized representative of the United States Government, I understand that all conditions an obligations imposed upon me by this agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified information, and at all times thereafter.”
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PO1 Mark Letcher
Well I was reading thru it (thank heavens for zoom features) and in the boilerplate a number of docs are referenced. I'm pretty sure that some of those have been 'changed' or amended if not updated since then. No one told me!! How many do I have to read? "Ignorance is no excuse" breaks down in the face of that threat at my age. That's why I thought I'd ask, before getting into interviews or worse. Google 'submarine Virginia elbow' and that's an innocent reference to a big scandal that people can't afford and it's public. Most of the info is probably public by now anyway. How would I even check if I can't talk about it?
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From the SF-312 you probably signed. And even after my original exposure to classified material/actions on the boats in the 1958-60 timeframe, I still don’t feel I can reveal operations. The last time I looked In on this, I found records on you are kept for 50 years. There have many books and articles on classified actions, so there must be something to release what you want.
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PO1 Mark Letcher
I was reading the book "Watertight" by K.Heckman (on Amazon). I could do a better one. For educational purposes, of course. You probably weren't a nuke either, though I'm wrong a lot and not an O. I'm concerned with even talking to my VA Primary Care Physician about my experiences. The Denver Hospital is obsolete. Been so for 20 years now. The Front Range got a new (Nu) Nueuro-Phrenology $1B research lab instead that's cranking those MRI's. It's nice, so I've heard. Lots of artwork too. 34 outpatient rooms for Denver. Good thinking! I have to go to Wyoming for an a mere ultra-sound and eye glasses. The VA can't, won't and doesn't provide eye care in order to obtain informed consent. Consider that. My last set of glasses from the VA fell apart within 30 days. A safety hazard as well as a waste of money. No wonder they were 'free', except for the taxes for those VA pensions.
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MCPO Roger Collins
PO1 Mark Letcher I served on diesels, SSNs and FBMs for over 20 years, all as a nose coner. You kind of jumped the track there, my response was to the duration of clearances. VA a totally different problem.
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