Posted on Apr 9, 2014
APFU Pants: Why do I have to take them off when it's between 35-50° F?
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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. We form up in full Winter APFUs because it's friggin cold outside, and the 1SG tells us to take our pants off. WHY? It's COLD!
Am I the only person in the military who gets cold when my legs are exposed to cold air and wind? We usually just stand there waiting for who knows what to start the formation usually after it was supposed to begin. I once had to take an APFT at Ft. Huachuca while it was 30° with a really cold wind. We had to take off our pants for that one. Too cold. Way too cold. Am I just bitching? Is this because I am a Floridian?
All I really want to know is why do senior NCOs make this call? Can't we take the pants off when we actually start PT?
Am I the only person in the military who gets cold when my legs are exposed to cold air and wind? We usually just stand there waiting for who knows what to start the formation usually after it was supposed to begin. I once had to take an APFT at Ft. Huachuca while it was 30° with a really cold wind. We had to take off our pants for that one. Too cold. Way too cold. Am I just bitching? Is this because I am a Floridian?
All I really want to know is why do senior NCOs make this call? Can't we take the pants off when we actually start PT?
APFU
Physical Training
Formation
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You take them off because Top said so. When the CO says something you look at Top for confirmation. And never piss off the 1SG. Did that ONCE
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Know what really chapped my hide? Back when I was a young PVT, the Army issued us pile caps. IMHO, that was the absolute best piece of equipment ever made! They thing was, they would never allow us to wear them!!
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I'm calling bullshit.
No Chief Warrant Officer ever went to PT formation.
If you do, you must be an NCO impersonating a CW2.
No Chief Warrant Officer ever went to PT formation.
If you do, you must be an NCO impersonating a CW2.
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Mr. Kantor, When I was doing my duty to my country as an Army Grunt (1960 through 1988), we didn't question such trivial things as the discomfort we suffered due to having to wear, or not wear pants as instructed by either the officer or noncommissioned officer in charge of the formation. The uniform of the day was posted on the bulletin board standing right outside the mess hall door (we didn't have dining facilities in those days) and if you didn't read it, the First Sergeant would be nibbling on your butt for days to come for that unforgiveable transgression. Every soldier (we didn't have service members in those days either) in the division from the Division Commander on down to the lowest ranking Private Snuffy were all in the same uniform for all tasks. That was known as the Army Before Snowflakes. Physical training and testing is necessary so the commander can have a good handle on the combat readiness of the unit and individual comfort is not a matter of grave concern to a good commander. If you have never taken a PT test wearing bull battle then, in my opinion, you have never become a true soldier and I would never feel comfortable to be in battle with you. Allowing soldiers to dictate terms and question requirements is the most dangerous thing that can happen to any unit in our army.
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SGT Randall Smith
That just about says it all. You can gripe all you want to later but do as you are told.
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As if the warrrant officer is in the formation anyways. He's likely at the gym ... maybe Lol
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CW2 Jonathan Kantor while these pants are a bit more comfy they do not even remotely work in any situation to keep my legs warm. I would rather just go in shorts at that point.
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CPT (Join to see) - I like the shirts and shorts as they breathe better. I just love how we went to one dress uniform to "save Soldiers money" then we change every uniform.....yeah that saved me money....
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I belive a Soldier should be able to put/take on/off there PT clothes, during the exercise. I want them to get everything out of the PT training. Not worry about the weather. So, if a soldier need to remove his or her PT pants and or put them on. If this gets them to work-out harder. Then we all win.
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Chief, it's just plain stupid. I can almost buy the "we all need to look the same in formation". All I can really say is, retire like I did, get a civilian job and do "your thing".
Dave Arbelle 1SG (Retired)
Dave Arbelle 1SG (Retired)
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