APFU Pants: Why do I have to take them off when it's between 35-50° F?

Acclimation to hardship. The Romans started bathing male babies in ice water shortly after birth in order to inure them to hardship.

When I complained that I was cold during PT, I'd get a retort that "You're from Chicago. You should be used to the cold." I'd come back with "Yeah, but in Chicago, we're smart enough to go inside when it's this cold." Sure, it was funny at the time, but late in my career, I researched the US Army deployment to Russia in 1919 (that's right- the Army deployed to Russia in 1919- look it up). The Army sent a Michigan Militia unit, thinking that since they were from Michigan, they'd be used to the cold of Siberia. Plus, they kept the overcoats in the hold of the ship while they moved from England to Arkhangelsk off of the White Sea. After all, it was September and great weather - in England. Those actions were devastating to the soldiers. Most of those in the Militia were shopkeepers or factory workers. They were expected to know instinctively about skis and snowshoes, and how to stay warm in a cold climate. During that deployment, poor leadership and half-baked assumptions led to an American retreat and 279 KIA.

IMHO - if you want to wear pants during PT, you should be allowed to wear pants.

Three years of this conversation.

Well chief, for my experience in FT. Wainwright AK I can tell you that the army only identifies cold as at condition from 32 and below everything above it could result on heat casualty, everyobe is different? Yes, but 32 iz the safe point; also like someone already said before we most train our bodies to get use to extreme weather for example if you put the cold weather gear on above 32 that same gear will not help you whenever it gets below 20 degrees

Happy to me once it the Marines. The CO (LtCol) forgot his sweat pants.So you know what happen? Left them in the ground in formation and commence the Battalion run.

Chief, why are you still going to Company-level PT outside of TRADOC?

Military doesn't go by temperature most times they go by times of the year I remember getting 105 degrees sometimes then at night dropping down to 70 it we had to keep the windows open because regulations said to even though we were freezing!

It basically boils down to who's in charge. If the commander feels better about running with just shorts then that's what will happen. Sadly however those types of commanders are making decisions based on what' s more comfortable for them and neglecting the overall common sense factor. We had a Brigade commander in Germany that decided to go out with a bang before he retired. The weather was a blistering 16 below zero with five inches of snow on the ground. The brigade ran a four mile run all over post. Soldiers were falling left and right from sprained ankles and twisted knees. The next day about one third of the brigade was on sick call. He definitely left with a bang

Question. If you dress like the picture in the morning for PT do you have time for a shower and to change into your duty uniform. When we had a.m. PT and were through we brushed off our hands and marched to our duty stations.

Because your 1st Sergeant is a chicken shit pussy who won't stand up to the CO and look after his troops------Like his job requires-----The curse of career minded soldiers.