Posted on Mar 7, 2014
AR 670-1: What is your reaction to the newest changes?
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<14px;">, APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED!<br><br>2. New revision of the regulation will define the following terms: eccentric, faddish,conservative, inconspicuous, unsightly, hair braids/plaits.<br><br>3. AR 670-1 will be a PUNITIVE order in the new regulation. <br><br>4. Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear. <br><br>5. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even during leave).<br><br>6. Female and Male hair grooming standards will become more restrictive and better defined(I'll have pictures for you at MHS).<br><br>7. Females will be allowed to put their hair into a pony tail during PT.<br><br>8. Males will be prohibited from wearing cosmetics to include nail polish, females may wear cosmetics conservatively, but can only wear nail polish in service, mess, or dress uniforms.<br><br>9. Females fingernail length will not exceed 1/4 inch, no fake nails, add-ons, or extensions will be authorized.<br><br>10. Tattoos will not be visible above the neck line when the IPFU is worn. Tattoos will not extend below the wrist line and not on the hands. Sleeve tattoos will be prohibited (this one will be grandfathered).<br><br>11. Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that require the hand salute (eating, cell phone use, smoking, etc.).<br><br>12. ACUs will not be commercially pressed; hand ironing of the ACU only will be authorized.</span></font></p><font color="#666666"><span style="line-height: 17px; font-size: 14px;"><p><br>13. Bags worn over the shoulder will only be black or the color print of the uniform i.e. ACU, without logos.<br><br>14. the new regulation will specify civilian clothes standards both on and off duty and both on and off post.<br><br>15. No visible body piercings on or off duty and on or off post, males will never be allowed to wear earrings. Ear gauging will be unauthorized.<br><br>16. No dental ornamentation or gold teeth will be authorized.<br><br>17. Soldiers will be authorized to wear authorized ballistic eye wear in garrison.<br><br>18. Officers will be authorized to wear non-subdued rank on their headgear in garrison.<br><br>19. Males will be authorized to carry black umbrella with ASU.</p><p><br></p><p>http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs<br></p></span></font><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://www.armytimes.com/graphics/ody/alticon.png"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a href="http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs" target="_blank">Army secretary approves new grooming, uniform regs</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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But if you have a specific religious belief we will allow you to wear different headgear, have a beard, etc etc. The problem is that the regs we currently have are not even enforced. Some of the new changes I totally agree with like eating and walking etc. But the sideburns reg is dumb. Shaving one is another one, who cares !! We try to say don't look like a "soldier" when you go places but now who can miss us with our notched out sideburns and looking like models at JCrew and Gap, and clean shaven. Will we get a clothing allowance for this? Or issued civilian clothes coming?
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I actually am glad that females are going to be able to have their hair in a ponytail for pt because there have been many times that I have been out on a pt run that my hair ends up falling out into a ponytail anyways. I have seen some leaders yell at female Soldiers who's hair falls out while they were running, when i was a younger Soldier even saw a leader stop a Soldier on a PT test and made her fix her hair.
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That "leader" was no leader. You don't stop a soldier on a PT test. He could have made her fix her hair after the test was over. PT is physical training, not Prettiness training.
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SGT Tinoyan, Everything that I have read states there is no length limit on ponytails.
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SSG Hardenstine, I agree and I'm glad that females will be able to wear a ponytail.
As for me, considering how much time we spend on the ground during PT, I think I'll keep mine in a bun. Just thinking about all of the dirt, twigs and insects that would get tangled up in my ponytail gives me the willies!
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I'm kind of glad to see the change in the tattoo policy. I personally don't care how many tattoos you have or what they say. I know Soldiers these days are on an individuality kick, so its a bigger part of the force now than it's ever been. However, I don't see anything professional about having tattoos on your hands, on your neck, or behind your ears. If you ask me, it is setting you up for success in the civilian sector, where A LOT of companies don't want to see that sort of thing.
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SSG,
I agree with the neck and hand tattoo's. However, tattoos arent just because on an individuality kick, i have two on my forearms that represent two of the friends i lost the only time they are seen are when im in summer pt's or class b's (who actually wears those).
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#2. Definitions are a great idea. Too many differences when its left to opinion.
#3. Punitive regulation is a good idea as long as limits of punitive actions are also defined.
#4. Center line of the ear makes better since to me.
#5. Guard/ Reserve Shave all month? On post or on duty sure but off post and off duty there isn't a good reason for it.
#6. Again, definitions are a good idea
#7. Great
#8. Wasn't aware that males could currently wear cosmetics.
#14. Standards for civilians clothes, its about time.
#15. No male piercings and no gauging, one of the best ideas I've heard of yet.
#3. Punitive regulation is a good idea as long as limits of punitive actions are also defined.
#4. Center line of the ear makes better since to me.
#5. Guard/ Reserve Shave all month? On post or on duty sure but off post and off duty there isn't a good reason for it.
#6. Again, definitions are a good idea
#7. Great
#8. Wasn't aware that males could currently wear cosmetics.
#14. Standards for civilians clothes, its about time.
#15. No male piercings and no gauging, one of the best ideas I've heard of yet.
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I guess I can see the reasoning behind most of these changes. The only one I have an issue with is shaving when you are on leave. I don't see how not shaving on leave would have a negative effect on the Army or represent members of the Army in a negative way. However, I'm sure if shaving on leave is a proposed change there is a good reason for it. I can't personally think of one though. <br>
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SF has a reason for not shaving, their mission demands that they blend in with locals. In uniform, I can understand shaving. On the weekends, where most people stop shaving every morning, and let it grow out, I think is a little much to be demanding. I can understand their concern about soldiers growing out full on beards, however a little shadow shouldn't be an issue during off duty times. I believe the professional attitude is what sets us apart from civilians, not how much hair is on our face.
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SF's mission of blending in with the locals only applies while in a given locale. You can see by my picture the military has on multiple occasions disregarded their rule against beards so I could accomplish the mission. I can't understand why anyone would care about whether a soldier shaves on the weekends or not.
One question: Does the no hair below the ear apply to females as well?
One question: Does the no hair below the ear apply to females as well?
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Not hating, just stating the obvious. And one doesn't need a tab to enjoy the benefits of group, even the support people fall into the same rules.
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I am excited to see how to bring the standards back to where it should be. A few stretches of the haircut on what looks good or not but pleased to see. My question is these off duty rules, how are they going to enforce the USAR and ARNG with these? Will they give guidelines to commanders on the punitive rules?
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I anticipate the standards for USAR and ARNG to be enforceable only while on Active Duty Orders (Annual Training, Schools, etc), or while on a military installation, much the same way the standards are enforced now.
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They key thing here is... Are they in a pay status? If they are not in a pay status there isn't really much that can be done to enforce the standards. The one exception I am aware of is when they come in for ID Cards.
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Approved??
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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SFC Craig Dalen
They should. All I ever hear is how females want to be treated equally. If this is the case then grooming standards apply to all Soldiers with no difference between males and females other than hair length and style requirements.
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It is too bad that this has to be done, our culture is having adverse influence not only on the military, but in primary and post education as well.
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I'm on an AF installation and assigned to a COCOM, so we are in our own little kingdom. That is probably why I saw the fleece.
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They have been trying to get that stuff added for years now and it never see's the light of day. Plus how are you going to tell soldiers they have to shave when off duty when they are letting troops grow full beards for religious purposes while on duty?
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This is usually where all the "yes men" fear standing and voicing their opinions. Most of it will get attacked as racist or gender bias but my concern is the male shaving standards off duty.
I can only hope some of the counterintelligence guys out there will chime in on this. We as soldiers are already targets merely for our career choice and when in uniform anywhere in the world we standout like we're wearing Christmas lights. However off duty or on leave we have an opportunity to blend a little. A high and tight haircut with no sideburns and clean shaven 24/7 is like ringing a dinner bell for those looking for Americans to harm, and the ultimate prize, an American service member.
This change violates all physical security standards we preach to soldiers.
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Isn't that part of the reason DoD finally did away with the base decals?
I for one have never been a fan of dressing in "Army" clothing carrying ACU/BDU or anything that marks me as military other than my ID card when traveling. For those same reasons I don't post my 201 file on the back window of my truck.
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Haha you dated yourself with the 201 comment, those have been out for years. Anyhow your right, when in Rome do as the Romans. People mark up their cars like a love me book.
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SFC Gruzinski,
I accept the dated comment and will further own up to still having sets of grey PTs with the crappy elastic that never held up after the first mile of running in the rain. Also to filling out DA 31s on a typewriter, and having to hold a small sign with name, rank and last 4 for my DD-2 Photo, and having to wait for the clerk to allow the polaroid to develop before cutting it out and laminating it.
That being said, I grew up in the LRS community, most of us learned not to stand out, and to blend in by being unremarkable.
Another huge issue I have is wearing the ID tags around the neck. Wearing ID tags around the neck in civilian clothes is a bigger indicator of a SM than any of the other proposed changes.
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Unless you had the horror of wearing the "banana suit " PT uniform you have no idea.LOL
I don't recall reading the ID tags off duty part.
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