AR 670-1: What is your reaction to the newest changes?
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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Professionalism
Regulation
I for one think some of these should have been covered a
long time ago. I remember not being allowed to wear certain types of clothes (i.e.
tank tops and flip flops just to name a few) on post during the first five or
so years of my 21 years. I can’t tell you how many times I wanted to tell
someone (soldier and civilian) to go change while I was in the PX or anywhere
on post for that matter. I have never understood what happened to the dress
codes from my early years.
Once again, the higher-ups have failed to grasp the concept of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Clean shaven? I'm old-school Army and moustaches had their own regs. Males authorized a black umbrella? My Drill SGT taught me, "If it ain't rainin', we ain't trainin'. If it ain't snowin', we ain't goin!" Has MY Army become so sissified that a little rain is gonna melt the average soldier? What if it starts raining while the bullets are flying? Are you going to drop you M-4, don your umbrella, and wait for fair weather? If Mr. I. Hate Americans doesn't die laughing, he'll turn you into swiss cheese. And even if I were still in, I'd love to see somebody come tell me, while off-post, what I can & cannot wear. I had no trouble telling officers off when I was in, and I laugh at, and will laugh in the face of whomever thought this up. Sounds like a shave-tail lieuiy to me. There's a reason why butter bars aren't really put in charge of anything; they don't know their job yet.
P.S. even telling offices off, I STILL have an Honorable Discharge.
Whether my bag is OD Green, ACU, ACU Green, or Black, does not subtract from my professionalism.
The not being able to walk with the phone in use is just nuts. Maybe even add in if it is business related and you are conducting yourself accordingly. I can save a lot of time if I can call enroute to a destination in order to coordinate training. Now your are telling me I have to stop to have a 30 sec conversation and waste time and not to mention the time of everyone around me or anyone waiting on me at the destination.
What is the point of making an un-enforceable regulation ie clean shaven 24/7 on or off duty. There will be no more leave because in order to go, you will have to take at least an E-6 with you to make sure you are shaving. Don't worry Army retirees, the Army will pay you to be a Wal-Mart Greeter so you can look for people who look remotely military on Sunday morning and ask if they shaved.
I wholeheartedly agree that whether in or out of uniform, you are still a soldier. Ecessively odd modes of dress do make the Army as a whole look unprofessional, but don't tell me I have to wear business casual at all times on post. If a soldier needs to put down the razor for a day or two when not on duty, that is much better than wasting our medical services time and government's money by getting a shaving profile.
I am ranting, but it stands to reason that there is a better use of our tax dollars than thinking up ways to make our haircuts tighter, our off duty clothes match, and that we are shaven at all times. We have standards now, make sure people live up to them.
It has never been against Army Regulation to talk on phone, eat, smoke while walking.
It has only been against local policy (post, unit) for these restrictions.
It is only with the updated AR 670-1 that it actually specifies those things are prohibited.
My BDE CSM 'caught' me doing this in the motor-pool once...and had a flip-out moment. Never saw someone so angry and unwilling to listen to me. He was in such a rant and rage that he took the phone out of my hand and told the other person on the phone to call back later without even knowing or caring who was on the line with me; and hung up.
He later got the same from the COL when he personally showed up in our motor-pool as I was still doing mountain climbers, push-ups, side-straddle hops, ...basically being totally dogged out. When the COL asked him why he hung up on him... he was dumb-founded.
A short jump to conclusions never helps anyone. I understand if that was a girlfriend or something... but that was business... I was the Brigade's Unit Movement 'Officer' and the Col wanted his status report (more on his personal equipment and hummer, etc.) for the BDE which was being deployed.
Was not funny at the time... but it is now. The CSM never apologized for smoking me.
#3. Isn't "Failure to obey a Lawful Order or General Regulation" punitive under the UCMJ already? Am I missing something here?
#4. I sure hope the "Top of the Ear" is clearly defined in the signed version.
#5. On leave? How are you going to enforce that? Shaving police travelling around to everyone's leave address to ensure they are remaining clean shaven? I know, integrity comes into play here, but really? I mean I pretty much stayed clean shaven on leave because I couldn't grow a beard to save my life and after about the 6th year in it drove me crazy to not shave at least every other day while on leave. Almost 3 years retired and I still can't stand it when my hair gets to long.
#14. I think the off duty, off post may be going a little to the extreme.
Just an Airman's two cents!
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