Posted on Mar 7, 2014
AR 670-1: What is your reaction to the newest changes?
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<14px;">, APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED!<br><br>2. New revision of the regulation will define the following terms: eccentric, faddish,conservative, inconspicuous, unsightly, hair braids/plaits.<br><br>3. AR 670-1 will be a PUNITIVE order in the new regulation. <br><br>4. Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear. <br><br>5. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even during leave).<br><br>6. Female and Male hair grooming standards will become more restrictive and better defined(I'll have pictures for you at MHS).<br><br>7. Females will be allowed to put their hair into a pony tail during PT.<br><br>8. Males will be prohibited from wearing cosmetics to include nail polish, females may wear cosmetics conservatively, but can only wear nail polish in service, mess, or dress uniforms.<br><br>9. Females fingernail length will not exceed 1/4 inch, no fake nails, add-ons, or extensions will be authorized.<br><br>10. Tattoos will not be visible above the neck line when the IPFU is worn. Tattoos will not extend below the wrist line and not on the hands. Sleeve tattoos will be prohibited (this one will be grandfathered).<br><br>11. Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that require the hand salute (eating, cell phone use, smoking, etc.).<br><br>12. ACUs will not be commercially pressed; hand ironing of the ACU only will be authorized.</span></font></p><font color="#666666"><span style="line-height: 17px; font-size: 14px;"><p><br>13. Bags worn over the shoulder will only be black or the color print of the uniform i.e. ACU, without logos.<br><br>14. the new regulation will specify civilian clothes standards both on and off duty and both on and off post.<br><br>15. No visible body piercings on or off duty and on or off post, males will never be allowed to wear earrings. Ear gauging will be unauthorized.<br><br>16. No dental ornamentation or gold teeth will be authorized.<br><br>17. Soldiers will be authorized to wear authorized ballistic eye wear in garrison.<br><br>18. Officers will be authorized to wear non-subdued rank on their headgear in garrison.<br><br>19. Males will be authorized to carry black umbrella with ASU.</p><p><br></p><p>http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs<br></p></span></font><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://www.armytimes.com/graphics/ody/alticon.png"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a href="http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs" target="_blank">Army secretary approves new grooming, uniform regs</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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So soldiers who got sleeve tattoos after their enlistment will be grandfathered in. Like soldiers who got tattoos after enlistment and do not have documentation of their tattoos, but now they will? I am correct CSMs SMs?
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In regard to number 6 the pony tail... hope those extra long hairs dont cause me to choke on a run and then get a permenant profile for breathing becuase i was trying to stay the distance and in step during formation. Does no. 8 interfere with alternative lifestyle personnel that may wan tto wear it off duty...i am referring to the rescindment of "dont ask dont tell" policy by our civlian leadership in Washington. Wont rule 8 offend those who may live this way? Really the biggest problem the Army professionally has is sideburns(no.4) and tattoos(no. 10) when Generals are being court martialed for SHARP, EO, and Actions/Integrity Violations unbecoming of a U.S. Army Officer. Throw me a bone send me into combat with General Dempsey best 1AD commander ever and lets blow the roof off of terrroists and warlords that beat down people to weak to support themselves. Lets go to Cold War training and make people do "their" jobs. These new rules may seem petty but those who have been around a minute have had four fatigue uniform changes two sets of pt's and two sets of dress blues. This is not a idea fairy it is a test of ones willingness to conform and engage professionally to lead the way on the next battleground. But it is an opinion; not a fact that for decades of no change as a Army has been made to its appearance; so it makes sense for someone or some company to make so many in less than a decade during war. The civilian side of me believes that we make up an All-Volunteer force...and not playing Devils Advocate,,,Nor a yes Man I would say I will follow the orders of those above me not questioning its intent nor its outcome rather that it is a morale, safe, and appropriate decision that would not cause unecessary harm to either myself nor my subordinates nor those I am attempting to save.
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OK this was talked about in our office a great length. I
have people that work with us who are Military technicians (National Guard
Soldiers who are federal employees during the week). The feel that while not in
a drill status they should not have to adhere to the grooming standards (Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty
(even during leave)). Also it was
brought up what do you do with a Traditional Soldier (National Guard M-Day
troop). How would or could you keep them
in check with the new AR. I feel it was
due but this may be a little hard to enforce at first.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
To say the least, challenging and demanding. I will be a beast and confusing, but with classes and good discipline, should fall in to standard.
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CSM (Join to see)
I agree that is what it is going to take now to find the time to be able to make sure everyone understands the new regs.
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So are we going to hold formation on weekends and have soldiers on leave stay local so we can check that they are following new grooming regulations and clean shaven all while on leave. I shave my head because it hard to find a good barber that can give me a low fade and not a high tight. Let focus on a bigger issue of the ongoing sexual assault plaguing the military then male soldier walking around like kids who couldn't hold still for there barber with no side burns. I am recommending to all my soldiers to start shaving there head razor bald.
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CPL Justin Fout
I believe in what you say about the sexual issues in the unit. the bad part is it is all based on alcohol use. when I was on camp casey we were not allowed more than a six pack and two bottles a month. that worked well lol I could do duty for someone else's ration and sneak a case in from a backpack that I bought from odesheio. this can't be micro managed.. I live by the seven values as a civilian today but until a man reached a certain age they won't . ldrship hold them to it!
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SSG (Join to see)
when I was young private in Germany all you were allowed in the barracks was either a 6 pack or fifth if you were of legal drinking age. Everyday my team leader would inspect my room to make sure it was clean and I was following the rules. I tell my soldiers now that they will have at least 2 fresh haircuts a month on or a few days after payday.
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So soldiers who got sleeve tattoos after their enlistment will be grandfathered in. Like soldiers who got tattoos after enlistment and do not have documentation of their tattoos, but now they will? I am correct CSMs SMs?
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The original recommendations indicated that belts would be required in civilian clothing to help stop the droopy drawers look. I hate to break it to people... But many times these individuals are wearing belts and that does nothing to keep the pants at his/her waistline.
As an AIT PSG it was painful to try to educate new soldiers why their t-shirts were inappropriate to wear. Even explaining that I really did not want my young daughters seeing soldiers wearing shirts with vulgarity or suggestive phrases was not appropriate. I finally just had to tell them I was ordering them to go change despite their opinion to the contrary.
And for the record, I will support any new regulations. But I tried to trim my hair up to the top of the ear and couldn't go past the top of the inner ear opening. Any higher and I might as well be shaving lines into my scalp.
As an AIT PSG it was painful to try to educate new soldiers why their t-shirts were inappropriate to wear. Even explaining that I really did not want my young daughters seeing soldiers wearing shirts with vulgarity or suggestive phrases was not appropriate. I finally just had to tell them I was ordering them to go change despite their opinion to the contrary.
And for the record, I will support any new regulations. But I tried to trim my hair up to the top of the ear and couldn't go past the top of the inner ear opening. Any higher and I might as well be shaving lines into my scalp.
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Do we know for sure what the changes are?
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SSG (Join to see)
There is a powerpoint slide deck released by G1 at DA outlining the changes, very good brief for all of us to get up on the know and become SME's.
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SGT (Join to see)
SGT Rockwell, when speaking about tattoos the army has always had these rules in place they just have not been enforced. i myself have tattoos from before i joined the military and am not personally against them i will get more when i get out of the military but for now the army says no... they always have. these Supposed changes are actually not changes at all they have always been there. when speaking about what a soldier wears off duty the same applies it has always been there just in the past decade not enforced as much. I support the reiteration of these regulations because i see soldiers walking around giving us a bad name. No, not everyone needs to wear kaki's and button ups but thats not the rules. the rules prevent soldiers from walking around wearing provacative or profane tshirts and their pants on the ground.
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SGT Drue Rockwell
Rules were there, but not the ones rumored to be coming out. i support most of the rules as they are actually being shown in the powerpoint.
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So long as they get rid of the subjectivity and "grey areas" I'll be happy... Regulations should be just that, regulatory, not ambiguous guidelines...
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And to all those out there who don't get the punitive. This is a punishable offense, as is any regulation in the army. Council your soldiers, close the assessment out every month. Once is a mistake, twice is A pattern, 3 times a habit. On the third recommend U C M J. It is insubordination, and willfully disobeying orders. Do your jobs properly as an nco and things go the way they are supposed to.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
SGT, I appreciate your perspective point made on the way forward on AR 670-1. I stand ready to police up the ranks and enforce the Army Standard.
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I'm not seeing much changed. You are already supposed shave, have no earrings, ect. At least at this post. It just seems like it's being redefined so new generation pays attention to the fact they really have act like soldiers whether they are in uniform or not. 24/7 once a soldier always a soldier.
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So can somebody explain to me the difference between random tattoos below the elbow and a sleeve?
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SSG (Join to see)
I know the difference, hard to convey sarcasm with a key board. My point is, if tattoos are allowed below the elbow I would rather my guys have nice organized sleeves instead of random junk in random places. That to me looks worse than a sleeve. I'm really just disappointed that i can't finish my sleeves until I retire.
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