Posted on Mar 7, 2014
AR 670-1: What is your reaction to the newest changes?
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<14px;">, APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED!<br><br>2. New revision of the regulation will define the following terms: eccentric, faddish,conservative, inconspicuous, unsightly, hair braids/plaits.<br><br>3. AR 670-1 will be a PUNITIVE order in the new regulation. <br><br>4. Sideburns will not extend below the top of the ear. <br><br>5. Soldiers will be clean shaven on AND off duty (even during leave).<br><br>6. Female and Male hair grooming standards will become more restrictive and better defined(I'll have pictures for you at MHS).<br><br>7. Females will be allowed to put their hair into a pony tail during PT.<br><br>8. Males will be prohibited from wearing cosmetics to include nail polish, females may wear cosmetics conservatively, but can only wear nail polish in service, mess, or dress uniforms.<br><br>9. Females fingernail length will not exceed 1/4 inch, no fake nails, add-ons, or extensions will be authorized.<br><br>10. Tattoos will not be visible above the neck line when the IPFU is worn. Tattoos will not extend below the wrist line and not on the hands. Sleeve tattoos will be prohibited (this one will be grandfathered).<br><br>11. Soldiers will not walk while engaged in activities that require the hand salute (eating, cell phone use, smoking, etc.).<br><br>12. ACUs will not be commercially pressed; hand ironing of the ACU only will be authorized.</span></font></p><font color="#666666"><span style="line-height: 17px; font-size: 14px;"><p><br>13. Bags worn over the shoulder will only be black or the color print of the uniform i.e. ACU, without logos.<br><br>14. the new regulation will specify civilian clothes standards both on and off duty and both on and off post.<br><br>15. No visible body piercings on or off duty and on or off post, males will never be allowed to wear earrings. Ear gauging will be unauthorized.<br><br>16. No dental ornamentation or gold teeth will be authorized.<br><br>17. Soldiers will be authorized to wear authorized ballistic eye wear in garrison.<br><br>18. Officers will be authorized to wear non-subdued rank on their headgear in garrison.<br><br>19. Males will be authorized to carry black umbrella with ASU.</p><p><br></p><p>http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs<br></p></span></font><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://www.armytimes.com/graphics/ody/alticon.png"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a href="http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140307/NEWS07/303070021/Army-secretary-approves-new-grooming-uniform-regs" target="_blank">Army secretary approves new grooming, uniform regs</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">
Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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Army Secretary John McHugh on Thursday approved a long-awaited revision to grooming and uniform regulations, according to an Army statement.
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I'm so glad I'm not in anymore, those new regs are gonna suck. It's bad enough that the army tries to control most parts of your life, but to determine what you can and can't wear on leave? Rediculous. Next we'll have senior leaders facebook stalking to enforce standards.
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I'm sad to say, using Facebook to monitor Soldiers conduct has been in practice for quite a while. I agree with your points, there is a point where oversight becomes intrusion, and many Soldiers believe we have crossed that threshold.
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Black or Camo Pattern Only backpack/shoulder bags. This is overly restrictive. Nothing wrong with a Tan, or OD Green bag, as long at it presents a neat military appearance. Soldiers have been bying a go to bag for the past 10 years under a variety of camo patterns and colors, and the Army just made them a uniform violation.
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I was surprised to see this one Sir, I know plenty of people who carry tan bags on a daily basis.
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SSG Robert Blum
The best part of this one is, I cannot carry my Multi Cam Army Issued Assault bag if Im in ACUs, Now I do have an ACU Assault bag, but I like to have diffrent Go bags ready for diffrent situations.
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MAJ (Join to see)
If you're talking about your old ALICE pack, I don't think so. If you're talking about your assault pack that you carry your lunch and a change of clothes in, technically, yes. Just like mine, which I've been toting around for roughly 10 years.
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Personally I think it's all ridiculous. We're focusing way too much on being pretty and not enough on performance. I see the caliber of soldier coming into the infantry and I'm not impressed. Most of them lack the resiliency and mental fortitude to make it 6 months in the army. They're all just here for college money that none of them actually ever see because they're all getting kicked out for DUI's, underage drinking, or drugs. The infantry isn't the only place where this is a problem either. Worrying about my tattoos, my sideburns, or whether or not I shaved over the weekend is taking away from our focus on meeting the standard. Now more than ever people fail to make weight. It's pathetic. You're telling me that I'll get let go because of a sleeve tattoo, but someone with 30% body fat and 50lbs overweight doesn't get reprimanded? I get more and more disappointed with the direction we take every day.
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To be clear, I'm also not saying I agree with tattoos on the neck or hands. I agree that it's unprofessional. I just don't understand why the regulation couldn't be left at "above the wrist" and we leave it alone.
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Well said. Your passion is apparent in your post, and you made several good points. Overweight Soldiers have always been the first example of how some soldiers are given a "raw deal" while others are allowed to carry on not meeting the standard.
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I think one issue would be, are we making our soldiers stand out even more while they're not on duty? Is that a safety issue we need to be worried about?
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
Absolutely, especially when your out on leave with the family and you have to worry if you got on tasteful civilian that is tasteful for all, its all about perception in my opinion.
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Sgt Shannon,
I made this point as well. I remember anti-terrorism training that had a section specifically addressing how not to be a target In public. It had a fat guy walking through an airport with an American flag shirt on, drawing attention to himself. I'm not suggesting that is the level we would be on, but being able to blend in does have it's advantages in terms of safety in social settings (crowds).
I made this point as well. I remember anti-terrorism training that had a section specifically addressing how not to be a target In public. It had a fat guy walking through an airport with an American flag shirt on, drawing attention to himself. I'm not suggesting that is the level we would be on, but being able to blend in does have it's advantages in terms of safety in social settings (crowds).
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Either embrace the Army life or get out! The Army is a profession, it is not a job. Professionals eat, sleep, and breathe the Army Way of Life. Professionals do not complain about regulations, they follow and enforce the standard. As professionals, we embrace the suck. We don't complain about it, we adapt to it and make it an advantage. We embrace it because it is the life we WANT to live. A lot of soldiers won't understand where I am coming from with this post, and those are the soldiers that shouldn't be in. For those that want to complain instead of saying HOOAH! well the Army is drawing down, take this opportunity to get out. Stop complaining, educate yourself and your soldiers, and make it happen. Too Easy!
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MAJ (Join to see)
Motivation! That is what I am talking about! Thank you.
-You sound like a Soldier that I know!
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You mentioned making it an advantage...what advantage would you make from the proposed changes to tattoos, non-subdued rank, umbrellas, and civilian clothing standards while off-post?(aside from the already stated "discipline" and "professionalism"...the jury is still out on those)
"Embracing the suck" is a stupid statement that is blatted by people who have no better words to inspire their troops. Most "suck" is the result of poor leadership, this is a fact.
( I edited my post after realizing I was speaking to a vet and not an AD SM)
"Embracing the suck" is a stupid statement that is blatted by people who have no better words to inspire their troops. Most "suck" is the result of poor leadership, this is a fact.
( I edited my post after realizing I was speaking to a vet and not an AD SM)
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I can understand on duty regulations for soldiers, but dress and shaving on the weekend, when the soldier is off duty is excessive. This also seems to be a double standard in effect as well. Soldiers who are Sikh or other minority religions are allowed to appear differently, even on duty. I think if rules are to be applied for the sake of uniformity, they all soldiers, regardless of religion, ethnic, or quasi-political reasons should be required to wear and sport the same grooming elements, on duty uniforms, and off duty dress, no exceptions. Fairness is crucial to morale and already, many soldiers who do not believe as some minority elements, are being treated differently. This can only result in animosity toward those who appear to be receiving preferential treatment. That hurts morale and team cohesion.
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Update: This was sent out to some of us today via email from HQDA. I found a link to the same pdf. http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Uniform-Policy-Leaders-Training.pdf
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Most of the points are not new. Not all of them may have been in AR670-1 but they were in either some other AR or enforced by a division policy. These are not new but they may be reworded on clarified to better help the Soldier.
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So is this legit?
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SSG Lisa Rendina
Ok, these changes are no so terrible. But, there sure is a lot of wiggle room in some of them.
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SSG Douglas Espinosa
One of the only things I don't like is if you have a sleeve you can never commission. Ink does not make you a bad leader. I understand it's appearance, however I had a great Company Commander with sleeves (Former NCO).
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My biggest problem is the transfer of everybody wearing blues, I had to get to recruiting as a corporal to earn that uniform. What was wrong with the greens for lower enlisted? It separated leaders and had that prestige, made me feel like I had made it
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I can't agree with this. Having a different uniform for junior enlisted isn't right. We as NCO's have earned our rank. We have ALL earned our uniform. You stand out with the gold stripe on the uniform. Other than that, we are all Soldiers who have earned the right to wear the same uniform. Not be separated by ranks.
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