Posted on Sep 9, 2015
Are fake disabilities affecting other Veterans?
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So I met this guy the other day that is a gym buddy of our kids (20 and 17 year old). Obviously I don't know the entire story but he is 100% disabled for hearing and his back. The moment I met him I wanted to call bullshit. He walked in our home looking like a cartoon superhero and started talking about his workout. He does parkour, and extreme weight lifting. And has since he was in and now that he is out. That immediately raise a flag of bullshit beyond him explaining to us his philosophy on working out and people. He also started to go into his time as a leader in the Air Force...he got out as a E4. I quickly identified him as "that guy". So anyways.
I live in constant pain from protruding disc in my neck. It is intensified by any variety of things but mostly just doing shit. I have days where I literally just want to lay in bed with my percocet in hand and try and numb myself to feel a little normal again and other where it just feels like some one is punching me over and over. I am 50% broken. I don't claim to be more or less broken than I am and don't really care that much about how broken I am I just avoid doing stuff that makes it a percocet day.
So my questions are this;
People that may or may not be using the system are they really hurting the system?
Do you care if people fake disability to get more from a system?
How would you handle your kid around this guy who you know is a freaking idiot?
I live in constant pain from protruding disc in my neck. It is intensified by any variety of things but mostly just doing shit. I have days where I literally just want to lay in bed with my percocet in hand and try and numb myself to feel a little normal again and other where it just feels like some one is punching me over and over. I am 50% broken. I don't claim to be more or less broken than I am and don't really care that much about how broken I am I just avoid doing stuff that makes it a percocet day.
So my questions are this;
People that may or may not be using the system are they really hurting the system?
Do you care if people fake disability to get more from a system?
How would you handle your kid around this guy who you know is a freaking idiot?
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Yes, they hurt it very much. More than you may know. As you age and your 50 % grows and you truly need help to be there, You will find resistance every step of the way.. The VA first response is always NO.. There are lawyers who make a fortune getting Vets Gee Whiz disabilities while the rest of us just keep moving trying to GRUNT it out.. I was one, The older I get the worse my disability gets.. I did myself no favor by being a " Good " NCO after retirement.. They are not the same as we are. They are clerks who follow VA rules..
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A bro in my platoon took an IED blast driving a deuce and half. It didn't make him deaf, but it messed up his equilibrium (vestibular disorder) 100%. He can do things fine until it's a problem. Never knows when it's gonna hit him. It's like a bad case of narcolepsy, fine one minute then out the next.
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The VA will only set your hearing disability at 10%. No more the only way it will add up to more than 10% is for a war wound that blew out your ear drums. If he has 100% it is a combination of the back and the hearing. Mostly for his back, but to even get that he must have damn near broke his back to get it especially if he got out as an E4. If he is lifting weights (extreme lifting) he is bullshitting someone or does not have a disability for anything and is bullshitting you. A 100% disability for a young guy is for combat related injuries, and there are thousands of young guys and gals that qualify. But for every true combat related injured servicemember there are 5 scumbags that are stealing the true warriors valor and living the lie of someone else's pain.
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Guys like that make it tough for vets with real disabilities to get help. They clog the system with claims and appeals, and take up space in clinics and hospitals. Report him to VAOIG, let them investigate.
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This kind of thing truly frustrates me. There are so many vets that are struggling to get the help they need while people like this steal those same Resourses from them.
This is a version of thievery at its worst.
This is a version of thievery at its worst.
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They are definitely affecting the care of other veterans. Especially those of us that have genuinely severe medical problems. I've had a double disc replacement for my C6&7, and although I was told there was nothing wrong with my lower back while on active duty, it turns out that my L5 had 4 fractures and part of the vertabre on the right was broken off and shifted 5mm to the right. I was Medboarded and discharged on 2 May 2012 (after 14 1/2 years TIS) and immediately sought medical care once I was discharged. I paid out of pocket to see 4 surgeons, and without telling each one what the other doc said, was told the same thing...4 fractures in my L5 with a break on the right side of my L5. I brought MRIs that were done, first one being in February 2009, and each doc identified the fractures and the break. I feel like skull dragging some of the fakes that I encounter at the VA, who brag about milking the VA, and go on to admit that they're perfectly healthy. The identification of Veterans who are claiming to be more injured than they really are, needs to be done quick, fast and in a hurry.
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Here's the big question: Do you know this guy has a 100% VA disability rating? He could be just running his mouth.
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SSG Richard Reilly
I beleive h does but from his words and actions he reminds me more of a mental discharge than a physical.
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Well, the short answer is a shit-bag is a shit-bag and fraud is fraud. That being said, do you really know "that guys's" whole story? Has he latched on to you and your kids because he lacks mentorship?
People who knowingly defraud a system should be at the least investigated in my opinion. It does cause harm to other veterans because it makes it harder for the next guy to be believed and allocates resources to a person who normally would not be entitled to these resources. This also lessens the resources for others, the VA never has enough to go around to everyone. Bottom line, if this was welfare would you want to be paying this guys ticket to ride through life for free?
As for being around your kids, it sounds like they have a great rolemodel already in their father. If you can see he's a dirt bag they can probably see something's not right. Talk with them, if they have questions answer them for them but the minute you start telling them not to interact with him, it'll just make him that much more enticing. If you really don't want him around, take it up directly with him. Better to be upfront and honest then silent and pissed off about it.
People who knowingly defraud a system should be at the least investigated in my opinion. It does cause harm to other veterans because it makes it harder for the next guy to be believed and allocates resources to a person who normally would not be entitled to these resources. This also lessens the resources for others, the VA never has enough to go around to everyone. Bottom line, if this was welfare would you want to be paying this guys ticket to ride through life for free?
As for being around your kids, it sounds like they have a great rolemodel already in their father. If you can see he's a dirt bag they can probably see something's not right. Talk with them, if they have questions answer them for them but the minute you start telling them not to interact with him, it'll just make him that much more enticing. If you really don't want him around, take it up directly with him. Better to be upfront and honest then silent and pissed off about it.
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We really have no choice but to trust the doc's judgment when he was evaluated. Sure, he may have played the disabled card very well, but there's really no way to prove otherwise (unless you've got a lot of time on your hands). It can be easy to pass judgment. During my final year of service, I heard rumors that people said I was faking it. Considering how the rest of my time in the Air Force played out, I'm inclined to believe there was some merit to those rumors. What they don't know, is that nearly five years later, the same problem that bothered me then continues to be there today.
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