Posted on Feb 26, 2016
Are groups like the American Legion and VFW too Right Wing Conservative for the new generation of Veterans?
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Given the societal change in this country that has been integrated into the Armed Forces, do younger veterans share the same views and attitudes of the traditional veterans clubs?
Are you uncomfortable participating when everyone else is considerably older and have different views? Should religion and politics be a focal point for Veterans Organizations?
Are you uncomfortable participating when everyone else is considerably older and have different views? Should religion and politics be a focal point for Veterans Organizations?
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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I was upset with America Legion when they backed GHWB 41 after his speech in SEP that he said was the day Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. I quit when they backed the man with no military experience instead of Tammy Duckworth, wounded Iraq Veteran who lost an arm and 2 legs.
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Walked past a vfw today and was ashamed. When I served we were taught to respect the flag. Not to use it as a political statement. Not to fly it behind us but to carry it before us as it not put ourself before the country. not to tie it to a wall but to let it fly free. We defended ALL Americans regardless of color, creed, religion, or political belief. To see signs rhat if you don't believe the same way as they do to leave. Made my stomach turn. If the VFW stands for these unamerican values of freedom it is truly disgraceful to my fallen friends. Patriot? More like Selfish, self-centered and down right hateful.
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There's an old saying, "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain." Republican Representative for eastern TN, James Quillen, told me that 50 years ago.
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The American Legion shall be absolutely nonpolitical and shall not be used for the dissemination of partisan principles nor for the promotion of the candidacy of any person seeking public office or preferment.
This means that The American Legion does not endorse candidates. All Legion Family members are required to leave their their Legion cap at the door of any political rallies, fundraisers or conventions.
In the early years, some saw this rule as a missed opportunity to get friends of the organization elected and keep enemies out. Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed, and the Legion’s party neutrality strengthened the organization’s integrity in Washington, as it still does.
This means that The American Legion does not endorse candidates. All Legion Family members are required to leave their their Legion cap at the door of any political rallies, fundraisers or conventions.
In the early years, some saw this rule as a missed opportunity to get friends of the organization elected and keep enemies out. Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed, and the Legion’s party neutrality strengthened the organization’s integrity in Washington, as it still does.
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I am a member of the American Legion. Yes many members maybe older but we are all Veterans!! We have to be supportive of these organizations. They're a forceful lobbyist to Congress. They're are members of the US Congress that are not supporters of the Military. If we are not watchful the benefits we've earned may be dismantled. There is a movement now to privatize the VA, get rid of Veterans Preference in hiring. Next could be to privatize the Military!
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SFC J Fullerton
I whole heartedly agree that the American Legion is instrumental in being the voice for veterans with the government. I fully understand and appreciate all the efforts past and present that I benefit from as veteran, that would not have been possible without groups like TAL. My concern is the long term viability of our organization. I have been a continuous member since 95, but only active for about a year. I am not sure how posts are going to survive the next 10-15 years if more vets my age and younger do not join and participate. I do not know the answer, but it is a real issue for TAL that not many younger vets have an interest in active membership.
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SGT Loren Hammons
Veteran Groups should be American. If the no fly list is used in a way where a 2 year old can be put on the list and you have to fight to get off the list. Then no for the law.
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SGT Loren Hammons
Our values are God Country and Family. Call it conservative or whatever, but we have values.
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SFC J Fullerton
SGT Loren Hammons - Values are good, and I support those values. The concern is why younger veterans are not joining in the numbers needed to ensure the long term viability of the organization.
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I don't think it's a politic gap, but an age/generational gap. While I may generally fall in line with the politics of my father, I don't necessarily approach problems and issues like he does.
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We fully intend to change it back,if you happen to disagree I suggest you not discuss the current POLITICALLY CORRECT invasion we are at war with, as it represents a clear and present threat to America.
As to Repub ,Dems fights ,it's election year
As to Repub ,Dems fights ,it's election year
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SFC J Fullerton
The question was meant to find out if this was a reason why the majority of the younger vets are not joining the service clubs.
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I am seriously non-politics...which is strange, but I turn it off when it gets above my head and I start drowning in lingo I don't understand. I also deal a lot with Vet service organizations in my job, and I frankly couldn't care less about how right or left wing they are. They do their job as far as myself and the vets I serve are concerned.
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SFC Raymond Thibault
The DAV and VFW are interested in taking care of Veterans. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW> Join and help us.
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I went to a VFW once and have not been back and that was 20 years ago. They make you feel as if you don't belong there. Its like sitting in a room by yourself .You sit on one side and 40 people on the other side. I use to belong to AL but there so far apart you'd have to drive 50 miles to get to an AL. After getting out of the military i like the people i hang with some military some not.
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