Are innuendos and assumptions a legitimate factor of honest journalism? No direct findings from the CIA or FBI have been announced, by either agency, stating the the POTUS-E was directly assisted in the election but yet liberal media reports that he has. Irresponsible journalism or Productive Assumptions?

Are innuendos and assumptions a legitimate factor of honest journalism?

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Posted 9 y ago

This is classic mainstream media making assumptions and reporting them as fact without verifiable proof. They have moved the term "Objective reporting" into the category of oxymorons.

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1SG(P) (Join to see)

Posted 9 y ago

GEN Michael Hayden, Bush 43's NSA and then CIA director has some interesting insights:
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/505366002/security-officials-question-russias-intention-on-election-hack

Security Officials Question Russia's Intention On Election Hack

Rachel Martin talks to retired General Michael Hayden, a former director with the CIA and NSA, about the CIA's claims of Russian influence on the U.S. election, and Donald Trump's rejection of that.

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Yes very good. My question was answered the day I asked it. Thanks TOP!

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PO2 Robert M.

Posted 9 y ago

I can think when Trump "challenged" a foreign intelligence agency to "find out" what was on the Secretary of State's server. Therein lies the problem.......

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PO2 Robert M. - Our intelligence personnel have gotten many of my friends killed there high speed. Don't preach to me Navy.

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PO2 Robert M.

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CW2 (Join to see) - if you can do better, get out from under the hood, and change fields to correct the intelligence "problem", join NSA, DIA or the fleet of other agencies. And I am DAMN PROUD to be "NAVY"!, and I wasn't "preaching" either - stating facts!

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As was I. Our cyber security agencies are a joke. We are decades behind China, Russia, N. Korea, and probably Niger. Thanks for your service

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Chief, your statement reinforces the likelihood that this occurred. If as you say "Our cyber security agencies are a joke.", that would embolden the state actors you named to exploit our vulnerabilities.

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Posted 9 y ago

The activity is being gradually established. The intent, not so much:
"While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-intelligence-idUSKBN14204E

Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday.

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These are the same agencies that said Iraq had WMDs...just sayin.

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1SG(P) (Join to see)

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By that argument, we can't trust any of their reports, even the ones with which we agree. As for WMDs in Iraq, even the French and German services, whose governments didn't support OIF, reported Saddam had WMD. They just disagreed on the appropriate course of action.

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Yet we found nothing...interesting.

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1SG(P) (Join to see)

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Prematurely concluding that they didn't is no different than concluding that they did:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/12/14/trumps-war-against-intelligence/?utm_content=bufferb2bce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Trump’s War Against Intelligence

The CIA is trained in objective analysis, not political knife-fighting. Can it survive a hostile administration?

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Posted 9 y ago

At least one GOP leader has an opinion on it:
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/310497-graham-calls-for-crippling-sanctions-against-russia

Graham: I'd question the judgment of a Trump nominee who opposes Russian sanctions

Graham may be at odds with Trump's pick for secretary of State over Russia.

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Everyone has an opinion on it. Just like Joy Bahar saying that our flag will be replaced by a hammer and sickle but is for flag burning. Opinions do not mean anything...facts, facts, facts.

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https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/215-press-releases-2016/1423-joint-dhs-odni-election-security-statement

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

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Posted 9 y ago

No "announcement" per se. But even The Hill, which generally leans right, is reporting on it:
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/310496-nbc-putin-personally-involved-in-undermining-us-election

Report: Putin 'personally involved' in undermining U.S. election

U.S. intelligence officials believe Russian leader Vladimir Putin was personally involved in interfering with the U.S. presidential election, two sources toldNBC News.

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As I've stated elsewhere, intent hasn't been established. Clapper appears to not think we can definitively say it was intended to benefit DJT. What's not in doubt is that the activity occurred, which should be alarming to all Americans. Again, from the ODNI:
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/215-press-releases-2016/1423-joint-dhs-odni-election-security-statement

Joint DHS and ODNI Election Security Statement

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CDR Jon Corrigan

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Just last year it was revealed Chinese 'hackers' stole background investigations on 22 million people, after having had free reign inside the OPM database for over a year. Apparently, that wasn't sufficient warning for many agencies to take measures to protect their systems. Why is anybody surprised by actions to interfere in a national election, when we make it so easy for them and when we barely registered a whimper over the OPM loss?

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Sir, I suspect for some folks there's no amount of information sufficient for them to believe this occurred.

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GySgt David Weihausen

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I don't believe the proof has been established that it did happen. Do they have the capability? YES. But there are conflicting reports over exactly where these wikileak emails came from. Wikileaks reports they are from an insider, not a Russian hack job. All that being said, the Chinese and Russians are not afraid to attack our cyber networks as they have proven in the past. Why we haven't taken measures to beef up our security is simple dereliction of duty of those in charge, starting at the WH and moving on down, IMHO.

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