Posted on Oct 29, 2013
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I was wondering how many people out there in the military are active Freemasons? The Freemans have a heritage of having military men in there ranks but it seems almost like we are a dying breed. Any comments or thoughts on this subject would be great. Thank you.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Masons have always been a presence in our Military but I was never approached and really never paid it much nevermind while I served. Although as a History Buff I have nothing but respect for the Masons. After I retired I was approached twice and asked if I was interested. I was and am to busy but the individuals that approached me I have the Highest Regard for.
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PO2 Richard C.
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Generally someone is not approached and asked outright if they are interested. Someone expressing an interest in the Fraternity would usually be given pretty much whatever information they asked about except the actual ritual and modes of recognition. Then the Mason may ask if you are interested. There is a "requirement" in Freemasonry that one must join "of their own free will and accord."
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LTC Herman Cohen
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It isn't Freemasonry in the Military that's dying; its fraternal organizations in general.  After I moved from CT to DC my CT Lodge had to merge with another lodge just to have enough active members to fill all the chairs.  But the same is true of the Oddfellows, the Knights of Pythias and the Knights of Columbus. 
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I have had an interest in becoming a Mason, however I don't feel that my religious beliefs are strong enough, I haven't been active in a church for quite some time now. However, even if I was, I'm not sure what Freemasonry is all about, and I wouldn't know how to go about joining.
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SSG Instructor/Writer
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1SG, that is an example of not really knowing what it's all about, no one has ever really explains it too me in detail, I've just had to research the internet on my own, and as we all know the information isn't always that accurate.
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CSM Infantry Senior Sergeant
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Religious beliefs honestly have no bearing on becoming or being a Freemason. It's a brotherhood, find someone who is a member in your unit they are there, you just have to look around and ask. By looking it could be dozens of items from rings they wear, to an ashtray on a desk or a coffee cup. Once you identify someone who is a member ask them. They will be more than willing to answer your questions.
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Thank you, 1SG.
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LTC Herman Cohen
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The only 'religious' component of Freemasonry is the requirement that you believe in a Supreme Being.  Beyond that discussions of religion are frowned upon within the Lodge.  There are offshoots that are more religious (the York Rite, for example) but within the "Blue" lodge it's your character that is important, not what diety you worship, or how often you do it.  Google the poet Rudyard Kipling's "The Mother Lodge" for a snapshot of the tolerance of difference that Masons embrace.
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SPC Christopher Smith
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Since I am not a member I do not know much of the organization, or its branches, but from what I did research in college when i was interested in joining, because of extended family ties to the organization I know this. Entry is not all that difficult: Be a man, freeborn, of good repute and well-recommended; A belief in a Supreme Being (says nothing of what you have to believe in); Ability to support one's self and family; Of lawful age; and Come to Freemasonry of their own free will and accord.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>The military is a perfect breeding ground for people looking to make connections and a stronger fraternal structure. I don't think Freemasons are any less present as they are just more cautious of who they bring in and their intent once they are in. All the Illuminati freaks and geeks, along with media influence has painted the organization in a twisted light.&nbsp;</div>
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My very 1st 1SG was a Freemason and did not have crazy emblems or conveyed it.&nbsp; Also to caveat I never have been approached asking&nbsp;to consider it as a member.&nbsp; I will say that when Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson the founding members of this society would roll over in their graves if they see what occurs today.&nbsp; Speaking unintelligently on the subject&nbsp; regardless of rank should be considered for membership for th eright reasons not because they need to attain promotion, slip through the cracks; etc.&nbsp; Accountability needs to be held regardless of membership and outside interference
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SSG Cannon Crew Member
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Franklin introduced Masonry here in the States. They are not the founding fathers, though.
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Brother Cole, I feel that stateside and overseas are two
different things when it comes to Masonry. The reason I feel this way is in Germany
almost every Brother or Sistars out there stay very active. Now that I have
been in the states for 7 months now everyone I talk with are not active for one
reason or another. To me it’s like going to college if you are going to pay for
your degrees and spend years studying for the knowledge use it for ever. So why
stop?  



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SGT Information Technology Specialist
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Conspiracy theorist have it all wrong, the Illuminati was real yes and they were disbanded on black Friday in their land of origin Bavaria. Is it possible that&nbsp; an offshoot organization still exists? possibly, could they be in the ranks of Freemasonry possibly its all speculative. The reverse of the dollar bill to a mason we see the all seeing eye which represents the great architect of the universe (AKA) God, the rest&nbsp;is just a design.&nbsp;Prince Hall was made a mason to send messages between lodges in&nbsp;military camps, he then decided he wanted the opportunity&nbsp;for other black men to be masons&nbsp;and requested charter from the United Grand Lodge of England in which all charters come from. Too many people are uneducated on Freemasonry just because you see a some high ranking people in the&nbsp;Army&nbsp;with the masonic ring doesn't mean if your not a mason your doomed we don't just show special favor to our own, we are for helping anyone in need as far as possible without serious injury to ourselves. If you would pay attention most of your home towns have a masonic lodge which should hold charity's and participate in parades and community projects.&nbsp;Freemasonry in the military is not dying its hiding because&nbsp;people that don't understand our fraternity&nbsp;or that have seen a mason that is not&nbsp;living or acting&nbsp;on the square causes trouble for all of&nbsp;us.&nbsp;
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PO1 Ray Chatterton
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Having read through the various comments for this thread. I have come to the conclusion that I will never be a Freemason.  The following list are the reasons I feel this way.

1. I do not know any Freemasons.
2. I may have retired from the US Coast Guard, but I retired as an Enlisted Person.
3. I am not financially independent, therefore I am not rich enough to be considered for membership.
4. The Freemasons seem to be a very exclusive  club that has major restrictions for membership. This in itself is the main reason that I feel that the Freemasons are a dying breed.
5. I am classified as being  90% Service Related for my Disability Rating. which limits my ability to climb the stairs that normally lead to the second floor of buildings where the local Freemason Halls are located.
6. None of my family, to my knowledge, were members of the Freemasons.
and finally,
7. I am not sure if the Freemasons meet my requirements for me to join.
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SSG Cannon Crew Member
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I respectfully disagree with your observations. A luring factor to Masonry for many was that a Prince would put down the scepter to fellowship with the pauper. There are all races, classes, and creeds within our fraternity. There are many lodges that are single floor and do not require climbing stairs. You are able to petition any lodge by visiting and speaking with members there. If you have anymore questions or would like clarification then please feel free to message and ask me.
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PO1 Chatterton,
    1.  How do you know you don't know any Freemasons?
    2.  So what if you were Enlisted?  My lodge's Worshipful Master is a retired Sergeant Major (USMC), and I'm a Reserve officer (I'm Secretary)
    3.  You don't need to be financially independent or rich.  I am far from rich...
    4.  The Freemasons exclude women and atheists, and that's it.
    5.  Many buildings have elevators, and some Lodges meet on the first floor of their buildings.
    6.  None of MY family, to my knowledge, were Freemasons, yet here I am.

....so I've blown all six of your reasons out of the water....

As for #7, you'll have to specify what your requirements are for me to be able to address that.
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CPT Craig Mathison
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As far a #7 goes, freemasonry doesn't strive to meet "your" requirements. You will need to meet the requirements of masonry. You will need to get over yourself because your need is to do what's best for freemasonry not yourself. This is a fraternity of brothers and is greater than any one individual. I though this part would have been easy for you having served in the military.
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COL Thomas Ficarra
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I actually tried to become a mason through my dad who is a 32deg. However, I need two masons to vouch for me and that is the hard part. Its not like they have a recruiting stand on the corner, and getting into a lodge without an escort is difficult. So, unless my experience is off base, I can see why membership is declining. If a mason is in the Alexandria/Quantico area, I'd like to chat.
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MAJ Command Public Affairs Officer
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Sir--find a local lodge online.  Call them and start attending the weekly stated meetings.  You'll build a relationship with folks there, be it civilian or military.  Eventually they will know you well enough to vouch for you.  You will be accepted if the right things are in place.
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COL Thomas Ficarra
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appreciate the input. I had a local WO give me a buzz with some info. Looking forward to the experience.
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MAJ Command Public Affairs Officer
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There are a few lodges in the NCR.  One is right up the street from the ARNG Readiness Center in Arlington.
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CW3 Network Architect
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I am that local WO who gave him the buzz with some info.  I hope he got a good experience.
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It's not a dying breed, I am a freemason and I have not joined to gain special favor amongst my fellow service members. I joined because it was what I wanted to do.&nbsp;
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