Posted on Oct 25, 2015
SFC Jeffrey Couch
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Question that could and is being argued are OIF and OEF and ISAF three different theaters of operation if so how come command tells me they are the same theater I don't think this to be true any thoughts
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1SG Platoon Sergeant
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OIF and OEF are two missions which both fall under the Global War on Terrorism.
ISAF is the NATO led International Security Assistance Force which is tasked with the security mission in Afghanistan.
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SGT Felicia King
SGT Felicia King
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So they are all relatable. Different missions that all fall under the same terrorist threat. That is what I figured, though one being in Afghanistan, another in Iraq, and the other the end mission task. All under the Global War on Terrorism.
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COL Strategic Plans Chief
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Theater: "The geographical area for which a Commander of a Geographic Combatant Command has been assigned responsibility. Combatant Command: "A unified or specified command with a broad continuing mission under a single commander established and so designated by the President, through the Secretary of Defense and with the advice and assistance of the Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff." Specified Combatant Command: "A command, normally composed of forces from a single Military Department, that has a broad, continuing mission, normally functional, and is
established and so designated by the President through the Secretary of Defense with the
advice and assistance of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff." Unified Command: "A command with a broad continuing mission under a single commander and composed of significant assigned components of two or more Military Departments that is established and so designated by the President, through the Secretary of Defense with the advice and assistance of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Also called unified combatant command." So...from this...we must do what is always done with doctrine. We have to piece it together. When the Joint Community talks about GCC's, we talk about CENTCOM, SOUTHCOM, PACOM, NORTHCOM, EUCOM, etc. These are our Geographic Combatant Commands. Thus, a Theater would be that geographic area of operations which they are responsible for. Using this definition, we see that the ones you are referencing are in CENTCOM...ONE THEATER. That being said, there used to be a Unified Command in Iraq. I don't know if it's still there. USF-I used to be a Unified Command. You could argue that at that time, Iraq was its own Theater under that Unified Command. The Commander received support and assistance from CENTCOM, but had a direct line to the Secretary of Defense, much like the CENTCOM commander does. I don't know if the same thing can be said about Afghanistan. As pointed out, OIF and OEF are not theaters, but missions within a geographic area. ISAF is not a theater, but a command.
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SFC Jeffrey Couch
SFC Jeffrey Couch
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Thanx LTC Halvorson
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SGT Felicia King
SGT Felicia King
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Thanks for breaking it down, Sir.
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CW4 Angel C.
CW4 Angel C.
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Totally agree. I guess the secondary question is: who's making the argument and why? I did OIF and OEF but when talking to anyone we just say: "back in Iraq" or wherever we were. Same as my ORB: says the country I was in.
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COL Jon Thompson
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OEF was the initial operation in the War on Terror and generally means the operations in Afghanistan and surrounding countries but is actually larger than that. It ended in DEC 14. OIF is what took place in Iraq from the invasion until DEC 11. ISAF is the International Security and Assistance Force, the NATO led mission in Afghanistan. US troops that were in Afghanistan thru DEC 14 were part of OIF and under the command and control of ISAF. ISAF has no role in Iraq or OIF.
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CAPT Hiram Patterson
CAPT Hiram Patterson
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When I was called up in 2003 my orders were under Enduring Freedom but I backfilled a stateside counterpart who deployed to Iraq with the Marines.
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COL Jon Thompson
COL Jon Thompson
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I believe that had to do with the authority to mobilize you and subsequent funding. I was first called up in 2003 as well and my orders said OEF. I ended up in Iraq and Qatar for that tour (plus time in Tampa, FL). OEF was the operation for the war on terror so anything that supported that would fall under OEF funds. In the opening days of OEF, we had operations going on in the Phillipines, Djibouti, and Afghanistan. OEF covered all of those.
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CAPT Hiram Patterson
CAPT Hiram Patterson
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You are correct. Of course when I went to Iraq in 2005 and 2007, my orders were for OIF if I recall. Will have to check on my deployment to German in 2010 to see what my orders said.
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