Posted on Aug 15, 2018
SrA Acla
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The AFI seems clear there is to be no personal relationship between officers and enlisted, including friendship or dating. But I heard if they had a prior relationship (dating or just friends) before the officer commissioned, and they are not in each other's chain of command, the relationship can stand or progress. Is there a regulation or supplement stating this?
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MAJ Integration Officer
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Yes. Pretty clear: prior relationships are grandfathered.
One of my 3 best friends in this world was an Army SGT long before I was commissioned as as a USAF 2LT
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MSG Reid Zohfeld
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well I guess the other gold rank is coming out. If you are really in the Army you know that in 1999 or 2000 a relation between commission and non-commission was nixed.
There are no grand father clauses
One up or down and couples married or not can not be in the same section and if I had a command married or couple would not be in the same unit.
It makes me sad that the Army I love has taken such a turn that I am glad I am retired
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MAJ Integration Officer
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Sounds like we’re all glad you’re retired.

My bro is not in my chain.

We’re both professional: we don’t hang out in uniform together, he refers to me in the third person as “Rank, Last-Name”, and when we happen to cross paths he salutes sharply and gives the greeting of the day, “Sir!”
Fokker even calls me Sir on the phone when we talk off-line.
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MAJ Integration Officer
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And don’t y’all even think I’m weak on good order and discipline.

The other day my protege who’s (P) to my rank said he was confused what to call me (in an .mil email) because I don’t go by given name. I told him it was an easy multiple choice test: Sir or Major. Same as I give y’all the respect of your “Rank, Last-Name”. You earned your title, and I won’t take that away from you with this Air-Force corporate culture BS of, IF I outrank YOU I get to call you by your first name
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Lt Col Jim Coe
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There’s an exception for the Reserve Component. Otherwise the restriction is very clear. Some Commanders may choose to look the other way but you can’t count on it. I’ve known officer-enlisted married couples. But they were rare in my time on active duty.
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SrA Acla
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Thank you sir! So when I eventually commission or one of my friends commissions, we just kind of have to drop contact?
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SMSgt Thor Merich
SMSgt Thor Merich
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The funny parts about the Regs is that as enlisted you cannot date an officer but it’s ok to marry one.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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I know in the army that prior relationship clause only counts for those that are to be married or are otherwise related.
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SSG John Potter
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This is not exactly what we are discussing here - but I had a friend that was in the reserves- his company commander worked for him in civilian life, he on the other hand was his company clerk …! My friend said they never had a problem- kind of weird though……
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