Posted on Jun 23, 2015
LTC Yinon Weiss
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According to Article 2 of UCMJ, "Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay" are covered by UCMJ. Does this mean that retirees can be charged with UCMJ violations even long after retirement and when not doing anything related to the military? Has this ever happened?

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/ucmjsubject.htm
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MSG Psychological Operations Specialist
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what is the "why" behind this question?
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CDR Tom Davy
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Retired Commander here. I'll be traveling on a global walkabout and need details on working overseas. I have sent two emails to Navy Legal and have yet to hear back. My calls are unanswered. I have a few complicated questions. I'm trying to comply with the regulations and can't get directions. Ugh!
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Lt Col Bill Fletcher
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The likelihood of being brought back to face UCMJ punishment is enhanced if the offense was committed while the retired member was on active duty at the time of the offense.
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LT Terry Lober
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There isn't a clear answer. Yes-IF the acts were committed while on active dity(before retirement), and no if the acts were committed 100% after the member was placed on the retirement rolls. Retired "pay" isn't pay at all. I know. I filed the class action lawsuit against the State of Kansas because the Statewas taxing military retirement pay-as pay- while not taxing any other form of federal or state retirement funds. In 1991 the SCOTUS ruled in a 9-0 decision that "military pay" is NOT pay for services and was NOT taxable by any state unless that state taxed as income all other federal and state retirement incomes. 35 State income tax laws were struck down and that, dear reader, is why military retirement pay isn't (usually) taxed by your State. The "pay" arguement was a fiction used by Kansas to tax military retirees. It was also the first successful civil class action suit against Kansas since Brown vs Topeka Board of Ed.
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Check your facts. In every case the accused retiree has been referred to a Court-Martial for conduct performed while on actual active duty. Oh yes, the original plaintiff in the class action suit that went to SCOTUS, was my father, a retired Army Colonel and I was merely obeying his "requests".
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SSG Scott Bregi
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As I understand it, This also pertains to commissioned officers under Art. 88. Can a retired Commissioned Officer be charged under Art. 88 for publicly making disparaging remarks towards their Commander in chief among others while in Retired status?
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SSG Scott Bregi
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As I understand it, This also pertains to commissioned officers under Art. 88. Can a retired officer be charged under Art. 88 for publicly making disparaging remarks towards their Commander in chief among others while in Retired status?
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SFC Robert Bundrick
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I think this would or could be challenged in court, it seems a little outdated imo! From what I'm reading and others have stated that this mainly applies to Officers but it was suggested that a savy JAG attorney could try and muster up something against Enlisted by utilizing Article 134 (The Catch All) offenses that are not covered but as I kept reading I could see that it would be highly unlikely to get a conviction on a retired Enlisted Soldier short of a crime taking place on Federal property! At the end of the day I don't think we will see many case's where Officer's are being brought out of retirement for speaking out against a General or President! That would set a bad precedent for future recruitment! It was a good read though sir!
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SSG Mannix Brooks
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Funny we have this question in North Carolina this is major news. Not because the person in question is retired, he is a reservist, former North Carolina senator and the Democratic nominee for Senate LTC Cal Cunningham. He apparently should call himself Jody because he pulled that type of move. Now in my case I'm a retiree and unless I do something spectacular that makes the national news or at least very very serious I doubt I see UCMJ but an officer is never technically retired as they are subject to get called back at any age. When they were still doing Combat Readiness Center (CRC) Fort Benning, GA (later Indiana for just the contractor) then for piecemeal units of and active duty and active reserve detached unit members, civilians contractor there was someone that came there I thought was the oldest contractor I ever saw. Day one soldier looked at us (I was a new contractor, freshly retired) and said we should be ashamed of ourselves. Day two she was wearing a uniform with a butt pack and I got the last laugh but she wore no rank so the troops laughed behind her back. Day 3 she showed up wearing full bird rank and all that stopped. The woman was about 72 and was in charge of the Northern California prison network hospital system but she could barely move and had two troops assigned to walk her around because the vest was too heavy for her going to the range. I got to camp Victory and lo and behold she was in PT uniform jogging, slow (fast enough for slow group) but jogging down the street and looked surprisingly younger for some (what did she get injected with). The morale of the story if you retired as an officer and you still have you wits about you there is always the possibility of recall and always the great chance UCMJ will get you if you royally screw up.
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CPT Lawrence Cichelli
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If someone is on the retired list with more than 30 years, then no.
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