Posted on Aug 12, 2015
Are the words "In God We Trust" inappropriate to use?
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The words "In God We Trust" have been used on our currency since 1864 and was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956. Recently Police departments in several states have opted to put this slogan on their patrol cars, citing the numerous times the statement has been held as constitutional by the courts. Some disagree with it's use and express objections to it being used. In the areas where placing it on Patrol cars has happened it is being discussed as being inappropriate. All around us we see the growing movement to remove any reference to God from government property, in Wauwatosa Wisconsin the "Christian Cross" was replaced on their city seal, the city of Zion, IL has done the same thing, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ordered the removal of the 10 Commandments monument from the state capitol, is this trend going to continue to grow until these words are removed from our monies?
The words "In God We Trust" originated from the song, The Star Spangled Banner, it is there we find the words, "And this be our motto: "In God We Trust"" The words "In God We Trust" provide for me a certain amount of solace and are a source of pride in my Nation and Government. When I sing the Star Spangled Banner have at times been moved to tears thinking about the men who fought and lived to see "those broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight. O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming." We live in a imperfect world and no matter what is decided someone will be unhappy. I feel public recognition of God is important, to me it's not about a specific religion, it's about our national heritage.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/03/in-god-we-trust-stickers-on-police-cars-lead-to-dueling-protests-in-florida/
The words "In God We Trust" originated from the song, The Star Spangled Banner, it is there we find the words, "And this be our motto: "In God We Trust"" The words "In God We Trust" provide for me a certain amount of solace and are a source of pride in my Nation and Government. When I sing the Star Spangled Banner have at times been moved to tears thinking about the men who fought and lived to see "those broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight. O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming." We live in a imperfect world and no matter what is decided someone will be unhappy. I feel public recognition of God is important, to me it's not about a specific religion, it's about our national heritage.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/03/in-god-we-trust-stickers-on-police-cars-lead-to-dueling-protests-in-florida/
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CPT (Join to see), I mean no disrespect to you, by saying this; however,we are talking about GOD; and using the word inappropriate in the same sentence? I think that the sentence is very inappropriate; and may GOD bless the Police Chief and the Police Officers in Bonifay, Florida.
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CPT Pedro Meza
SPC Margaret Higgins, Thank you and I agree with you, this falls under one of the Ten Commandments.
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I cannot and will not speak for anyone else but I will say that I trust in GOD everyday of my life and thank him/her for allowing me to open my eyes in the morning and again for allowing me to go through the day unharmed. It's the way I was raised. I praise God for all the experiences I have had and have yet to have. Some of you won't like that but I'm being honest here and hope you will respect the fact that I didn't let this post go without speaking up for my personal beliefs. I am not trying to impose my beliefs on anyone else but I try to let my life show and reflect my beliefs.
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I am not Christian nor Atheist and I don't have a problem with it.
Those that do have a problem can pull up their big boy/girl panties and move along.
Those that do have a problem can pull up their big boy/girl panties and move along.
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I'm voting no. My own religious views are that everyone is entitled to trust in their God. I think here what we see in the article is that it's placement on the police vehicles was taken by some to an extreme. With all the negative comments about police around the country and people's demand of a strict separation of church and state, seeing the police cars with these words on them just got under people's skin. I do agree that we as humans have to be careful where we place our faith on display. I have no problem with you sharing your story about how God, which ever one it is, helped you but don't force your God down my throat. I grew up in the church. My father is a very successful minister and elder in the United Methodist Church and let me tell you, I've seen faith bring out the best and the worst in people. For some, having a belief in a higher power helps them, some will tell you it's only because of this higher power that they lived through an event. So the words "In God We Trust" is appropriate. I think it plays a strong role in how our government was formed and it could do some good for some people on Capital Hill to remember that there could be something or someone bigger than they that they will have to report at some time and that since the public can't trust these people generally speaking, we put our trust in the higher power that we call God.
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CPT Pedro Meza
Capitol Hill is full of people claiming to having religion but not practicing any of the foundations of that religion. Our nation was founded on the Separation of Church and State because the king of England forced his religion on others.
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As someone who believes in a higher power, the words do not necessarily offend me. However...I do not necessarily think the government, at any level, should be promoting a specific religion. And if we want to continue what the Founding Fathers started by keeping religion out of government...we should all feel the same way.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6761840
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6761840
Founding Fathers: We Are Not a Christian Nation
As we witness yet again the brutal and bloody consequences of religious intolerance in the form of ISIS, we have a majority of Republicans pining for a Christian America. Proponents of converting the United States into a theocracy do not see the terrible parallel between religious excess in the Middle East and here at home.
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CPT Pedro Meza
I expect to be criticize but this whole dialogue has converted God into a political tool, even our US history is misrepresented, this violates the Commandment of using God's name in vain.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
SSG John Thornton - I just don't listen to him. I don't judge him. All of us will be judged by a higher authority.
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Simply put, yes, there is a freedom of religion, but the country was founded and based on "In God We Trust". You have the freedom to practice something else, but that is the founding basis.
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Maj Chris Nelson
SSG John Thornton - I think that is Latin...and I don't know Latin. Also, don't think I was ever taught this specific phrase.... I simply don't know what it means! I go with the English version of what I think this country was founded on.... Looks like I have at least 1 Latin phrase to learn now!! Thank you.
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The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. It wasn't put on paper money until 1957 during the height of the Cold War around the same time "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance...to make the communist Soviet Union appear godless. Contrary to what people believe our founding fathers had nothing to do with God being in government. If agency's want to evoke religious symbols they should prepare for cultural back lash. Considering our money isn't backed by gold or silver any more you gotta trust in something or else it's worthless right? So it's kinda funny that's on there. Now when people look at money all they see is Visa, Master Card or Bank of America nothing about God on credit cards, lol. It should be on cop cars...it's not on our tanks and fighter jets.
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MSgt Michelle Mondia
Well...if the Greeks came up with theories of morality and justices centuries before Moses and Christ I don't think we will have a hard time figuring that out for ourselves...maybe the answer is more gods and goddesses?
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LCDR (Join to see)
MSgt Mondia-Not to quibble, but I'm fairly confident most historians would place the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt (based on non-biblical contemporary sources) to about the same date as the fall of Troy. Also, if one accepts Christ existed, He was claiming a connection to prophecy made by Hebrew clerics many centuries before 1 AD. I'm a little rusty on my central Asian history, but wasn't Buddha sitting by that river sometime in-between? Point being, pretty much every religion traces its origins back to antiquity, so from an ecumenical standpoint, the date-line isn't always the litmus test.
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MSgt Michelle Mondia
The Greeks didn't have Judeo Christian values is what I'm getting at. Neither did the Sumerians or the Romans for that matter but they still had advanced systems of government, law and a sense of moral order that didn't come from "The Bible".
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CPT Pedro Meza
MSgt Michelle Mondia - and LCDR Joshua Gillespie both of you address basic human desires, which is ageless. Also the Bible as we know it was written by the New Roman Catholic Church 366 AD.
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I voted no. Simply because the entity/word God isn't limited to a single religion. If you're one of the "A"s - you should have thicker skin and get over the fact that the majority of the world believes in some sort of higher power.
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I think that would be a huge mistake. In a society that wants to remove God from everything, the last place that needs God remove is police force. In the current state of our nation, the men and women of the various police forces need God more than ever!
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