Posted on Aug 12, 2015
Are the words "In God We Trust" inappropriate to use?
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The words "In God We Trust" have been used on our currency since 1864 and was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956. Recently Police departments in several states have opted to put this slogan on their patrol cars, citing the numerous times the statement has been held as constitutional by the courts. Some disagree with it's use and express objections to it being used. In the areas where placing it on Patrol cars has happened it is being discussed as being inappropriate. All around us we see the growing movement to remove any reference to God from government property, in Wauwatosa Wisconsin the "Christian Cross" was replaced on their city seal, the city of Zion, IL has done the same thing, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ordered the removal of the 10 Commandments monument from the state capitol, is this trend going to continue to grow until these words are removed from our monies?
The words "In God We Trust" originated from the song, The Star Spangled Banner, it is there we find the words, "And this be our motto: "In God We Trust"" The words "In God We Trust" provide for me a certain amount of solace and are a source of pride in my Nation and Government. When I sing the Star Spangled Banner have at times been moved to tears thinking about the men who fought and lived to see "those broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight. O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming." We live in a imperfect world and no matter what is decided someone will be unhappy. I feel public recognition of God is important, to me it's not about a specific religion, it's about our national heritage.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/03/in-god-we-trust-stickers-on-police-cars-lead-to-dueling-protests-in-florida/
The words "In God We Trust" originated from the song, The Star Spangled Banner, it is there we find the words, "And this be our motto: "In God We Trust"" The words "In God We Trust" provide for me a certain amount of solace and are a source of pride in my Nation and Government. When I sing the Star Spangled Banner have at times been moved to tears thinking about the men who fought and lived to see "those broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight. O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming." We live in a imperfect world and no matter what is decided someone will be unhappy. I feel public recognition of God is important, to me it's not about a specific religion, it's about our national heritage.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/03/in-god-we-trust-stickers-on-police-cars-lead-to-dueling-protests-in-florida/
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Yes, Against our Separation of Church and State and Offensive to those of us that believe in what Matt 22:21 says. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, Give unto God what is God's. It is just a disgusting reminder of our behavior during the "Red Scare".
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It's our American History and the traditions of those that stood before us to believe and trust in God! Now with differences in opinions and more following the Freedom of Religion rule, this only seems to be inappropriate to those that choose not to believe in a supreme higher being.
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Well, the US Constitution predates the "In God We Trust" idea. But to me that's at the FEDERAL level, not the state. The states DO have the right to approve or BAN such wording (and the ones who do are usually just trying to avoid a lawsuit from the ACLU or bad publicity or expensive litigation). To me, if a statue or stone has been sitting there for 50 or a hundred years, then the population of that STATE should decide. NOT the legislature of that state, it SHOULD be an open vote of the state's entire population. Whatever results come out of it, there should be an addendum stating that "the people have decided..no lawsuit are allowed EXCEPT a test against the constitution of the United States", so unless the supreme court wants to hear the case, they can stuff it.
Remember that ALL islamic countries that are non secular wind up promoting ONE religion over all others. Yes, America was founded by for the most part christians. But over the years we've gained an unbelieveable amount of beliefs, all different from one another. The constitution guarantees freedom of religion, and cannot endorse one religion over another. That's the FEDERAL government. Judging from what I just read in my "pocket" copy of the constitution, states can't either. But since nearly every religion known to man has but a single GOD, well, we're all children of Abraham, right? And as for the 10 commandments, Moses predates Christianity by quite a few years, right?
Dave
Remember that ALL islamic countries that are non secular wind up promoting ONE religion over all others. Yes, America was founded by for the most part christians. But over the years we've gained an unbelieveable amount of beliefs, all different from one another. The constitution guarantees freedom of religion, and cannot endorse one religion over another. That's the FEDERAL government. Judging from what I just read in my "pocket" copy of the constitution, states can't either. But since nearly every religion known to man has but a single GOD, well, we're all children of Abraham, right? And as for the 10 commandments, Moses predates Christianity by quite a few years, right?
Dave
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner
Read the full lyrics.
Read the full lyrics.
The Star-Spangled Banner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The Star-Spangled Banner" is the national anthem of the United States of America. The lyrics come from "Defence of Fort M'Henry",[1] a poem written in 1814 by the 35-year-old lawyer and amateur poet Francis Scott Key after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in Baltimore Harbor during the Battle of Fort McHenry in the War of 1812.
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Making that the national motto was a McCarthy-era shaming tactic. Like most historic things, I believe it should remain where it already is, but I do not believe it should be added to anything governmental where it is not.
The city council in Hendersonville, NC just voted to add it to the 1800's Historic Courthouse. That seems to violate the Constitution to me. We should not pick and choose from the Constitution based on what we personally like or don't like.
The city council in Hendersonville, NC just voted to add it to the 1800's Historic Courthouse. That seems to violate the Constitution to me. We should not pick and choose from the Constitution based on what we personally like or don't like.
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I think the phase in the fourth verse is "In God is our trust." Not to split hairs....
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An important aspect of our system of government is that it is based on the Rule of Law. This concept is a direct descendant of Hebrew law and the Ten Commandments. Together with the concept of unalienable rights from God, these concepts helped ensure a way of life that respected the dignity of every individual. The combination of these biblical concepts is a foundation of our government that helps subjugate political power of potential tyrants. One only has to notice how every tyrant has a practice of changing the country's constitution to suit himself (or to butter the bread of those who put him in power).
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TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA
Here is a link to some facts surrounding our "One Nation Under God" and the founding fathers! Great Read!: link: http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government
The Bible and Government - Faith Facts
To understand why some of these passages above are applicable to our laws, one has to go back to the formative era of our nation and to America's culture and thinking at the time. The leaders of the various colonies, states, and ultimately the Founding Fathers themselves were steeped in biblical thinking. They drew from the Bible examples and looked for confirmation of ideas for government in Scripture.
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TSgt David Bariu
"In God We Trust".....without His guidance, we are lost souls.....whatever decisions humans make, should be Godly and not self driven....God is the Alpha and Omega...His Kingdom shall reign forever and eternally....
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TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA
God Bless your stand for righteousness, and not being ashamed!... TSgt David Bariu!
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LTC Andrae Evans
After reading the question again my answer may be misunderstood! Hell NO! It is not inappropriate to use. We are founded on the principle of God, whether Diety of Judeo-Christianity, it is in the belief that there is a higher being who endowed special privileges for us to become. Does not mean we got it right all at once, but we are becoming the bright city shinning on a hill. Yes, "In God We Trust" is appropiate
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LTC Andrae Evans - Thank you for clarifying your response and for taking time to comment.
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