Posted on Oct 25, 2013
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A common complaint that comes up during discussions among NCOs is that the Army is doing itself a disservice by essentially outlawing the good, oldfashioned "smoke session". Obviously the situation varies by unit, but by and large this seems to be a common topic across duty stations. What once would have been seen as an NCO keeping good order and discipline could now land you in a heap of trouble.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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I still make my young soldiers do a few push-ups here and there when they make mistakes but I do this away from judgeful eyes.
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If you can't do it in front of your grandmother...  ;)
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CPT Chris Loomis
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I completely agree with SSG Davis! "There are 2 types of Soldiers... smart ones and strong ones." NCO's are the backbone of the Army. They get the job done! As such if they have been tasked with training Soldiers they should have the discretion to dole out "IPT" (Incentive Physical Training).

 

Furthermore, I have never been downrange, but I understand and accept that it is often a matter of life and death.

 

By not allowing the "good old smoke session" are we as an Army preparing Soldiers for the potential harsh realities that they may one day face?

 

If attempts have been made to make a Soldier "smart" through training and education and those attempts have failed then by all means they should be made "strong" Soldiers. Maybe that is the jolt they need to get "smart."

 

And in making that Soldier "strong" we are probably saving many Soldiers lives!

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I would say that we are not “being soft” on Soldiers. I
believe that the environment that we are trying to instill is to give Soldiers,
regardless of rank or any discriminatory aspects, the utmost respect and trust.
Of course this may be taken advantage of but as Leaders, we need to hold them
accountable for their actions. This is how we mold and Soldiers into future leaders.
Just because we do not “smoke” does not mean we cannot find another
disciplinary method to correct the deficiency. 
We just have to be crafty and give them something to think about.
Smoking them will just give them a motive to not do it again but if we educate
them, give them a reason to correct it, and not correct it in the form of hazing
we can get more from the Soldiers.
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SGT Kyle Taylor
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As with everything else their is a good way and a bad way. Some people have taken it way out of hand and that is what has ruined it for everyone. Corrective action is just that not a reason for abuse of power and abuse of a Soldier. I am Combat Arms and I have been smoked and I have seen abuse of power.
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the old adage of "there are 2 types of Soldiers... smart ones and strong ones" actually means something. It works. Yes, like anything else, you have idiots that will abuse it (they're the same ones that push article 15s for everything, instead of trying to correct the problem with corrective training and counseling today). Paperwork works for some, push-ups and low-crawls for others. Know your Soldiers, know what motivates them, but don't ever land yourself in the situation where you are singling out one guy to pick on. Be fair and impartial in everything you do. But yes... SMOKE THE HELL OUT OF THEM! should be allowed, as long as it doesn't reach the point of abuse and hazing
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LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I fully agree with you SSG Davis nothing to add...
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SSG,
All I can really say about it is this: When I was a private, when I got smoked, or had to do "corrective training" it was painful and I never did it again. You are either going to wise up, or you'll end up really strong" my NCO told me. Today, I am very fit and a much wiser Soldier. I think the method speaks for itself
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