Posted on Jun 30, 2015
Are we failing to teach our children to love their country and respect those that came before?
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"Kids" love of country and respect for those who came before...hmm. I too have heard that what today's youth lacks in patriotism, they make up for in self-satisfaction. Lots of moving parts there. Allow me to diagram my thoughts (in no particular order):
1. We've always been a bit of an immediate gratification and youth oriented culture, but I do think it’s become more acute in recent years. Tied into this, a growing narcissistic, reality TV, everyone’s a YouTube star, selfie-taking, "MORE ME NOW!" mentality. It’s not too hard to see that anything that isn’t about or doesn't benefit the self, here & now, isn't important; particularly to the young.
2. The major sources of education for youth outside of the family--formal education and Hollywood--have taken a dimmer view of American exceptionalism, and embraced more of a "world citizen", “everyone gets a trophy”, “no one is better than anyone else” point-of-view.
3. Patriotism and civic duty isn’t taught these days; moreover, “patriotism” is more cliché or a punch line in our popular culture. Not helpful for fostering love of country, but fascinating to watch collectivist thinking (point 2) and narcissistic attitude (point 1) coexist in the same generation of people.
4. When thinking IN GENERAL of American youth’s world view, if all one's troubles have only been of the "1st world problem" variety, and are so accustomed to getting everything that’s needed, if not everything that’s wanted, then what is there to be grateful for? This lifestyle is to be expected. Entitlement requires no gratitude.
5. The past and those who paved the way for today are simply the past; out of sight, out of mind. Besides…youth culture, remember?
It sure starts to sound like a "Git off m-lawn ye dang kids!" kind of argument made by old people. It is. That doesn’t mean there isn’t validity to it. Still, all is not lost.
First, a lot of these things could be said of the youth from my generation, and generations before; at least to some extent. So this is NOT just a Millennial issue, and if it were, just remember it was Gen X and the Baby Boomers who raised them-raise your hand if YOU want to take responsibility for them. I do think much of this is simply a product of being American youth, and the Millennials and post Millennial generations are a big ol' group of "youth". "Kids", the Millennials and post Millennials may have raised the bar on lack of respect and self-interest, but as they mature, I suspect it will get better-to what extent I don't know, but better is better. Love of country and respect for others isn't dead...maybe just resting at the moment.
1. We've always been a bit of an immediate gratification and youth oriented culture, but I do think it’s become more acute in recent years. Tied into this, a growing narcissistic, reality TV, everyone’s a YouTube star, selfie-taking, "MORE ME NOW!" mentality. It’s not too hard to see that anything that isn’t about or doesn't benefit the self, here & now, isn't important; particularly to the young.
2. The major sources of education for youth outside of the family--formal education and Hollywood--have taken a dimmer view of American exceptionalism, and embraced more of a "world citizen", “everyone gets a trophy”, “no one is better than anyone else” point-of-view.
3. Patriotism and civic duty isn’t taught these days; moreover, “patriotism” is more cliché or a punch line in our popular culture. Not helpful for fostering love of country, but fascinating to watch collectivist thinking (point 2) and narcissistic attitude (point 1) coexist in the same generation of people.
4. When thinking IN GENERAL of American youth’s world view, if all one's troubles have only been of the "1st world problem" variety, and are so accustomed to getting everything that’s needed, if not everything that’s wanted, then what is there to be grateful for? This lifestyle is to be expected. Entitlement requires no gratitude.
5. The past and those who paved the way for today are simply the past; out of sight, out of mind. Besides…youth culture, remember?
It sure starts to sound like a "Git off m-lawn ye dang kids!" kind of argument made by old people. It is. That doesn’t mean there isn’t validity to it. Still, all is not lost.
First, a lot of these things could be said of the youth from my generation, and generations before; at least to some extent. So this is NOT just a Millennial issue, and if it were, just remember it was Gen X and the Baby Boomers who raised them-raise your hand if YOU want to take responsibility for them. I do think much of this is simply a product of being American youth, and the Millennials and post Millennial generations are a big ol' group of "youth". "Kids", the Millennials and post Millennials may have raised the bar on lack of respect and self-interest, but as they mature, I suspect it will get better-to what extent I don't know, but better is better. Love of country and respect for others isn't dead...maybe just resting at the moment.
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Well said. I'd like to add that I'm relieved I'm not alone in thinking the teaching begins at home.
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SGT Dave Tracy
Education does begin at home; however, no one should underestimate the power to form thought by what a person is taught in school and pop culture; especially if what they are learning at home is, shall we say "lacking". Those innumerable hours spent with music, TV, movies, and the internet is an educational, but what quality of education is it?
Kids will rebel. Kids will grow and form their own opinions--and not necessarily reflective of their parents--and many such opinions will evolve over time; but a good foundation of education, and values, begins with the family. With luck, I’m not screwing up mine. I’ll let ya know in 20 years.
Kids will rebel. Kids will grow and form their own opinions--and not necessarily reflective of their parents--and many such opinions will evolve over time; but a good foundation of education, and values, begins with the family. With luck, I’m not screwing up mine. I’ll let ya know in 20 years.
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It is an unfortunate sign of the "PC" times we live in right now. I teach my preschool grandkids to say "God Bless Ameria !" along with the 4th of July Uncle Sam flag waving doll. The doll was a joke gift from my friend that has become a big hit with my two grandkids.
Back to the classroom I think that all should stand and face the flag and then those who say they are Americans should say the pledge. We said it every day and i turned out just fine.
Hey, don't get me started on how terribly kids are at writing anything now days. Enough said! AJ
Back to the classroom I think that all should stand and face the flag and then those who say they are Americans should say the pledge. We said it every day and i turned out just fine.
Hey, don't get me started on how terribly kids are at writing anything now days. Enough said! AJ
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Where and what school? I got some choice words for that schools administrators!
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I already have, it was my son's school. He was the one student who stood up. He came home upset (he was upset other students didn't stand up) and told me about it. Later I received a phone call from the teacher she was impressed by his fortitude.
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SFC Jason Porter
I cannot believe the school does not push this. Out in California they are talking about banning the American Flag. Petition going around.
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Education not only begins at home but in the classroom as well. What I think the real issue is, is political correctness. Too many liberals whining "it's offensive to other cultures who aren't American citizens, and their feelings are more important than ours."
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I think its more of a case that our leaders are giving us less to respect. For example, how can we proud Americans if we cant get a job because our president gives them to illegals!
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I need to comment on that one, question-1 SGT Packy. How many Americans you see looking for a job in the fields, or construction and all those jobs that require some physical effort, not many, so someone have to do it. The day we decide to get up of our butt ,be less lazy and stop asking $15 per hrs for flipping burgers, that day we will regain those jobs we give to illegal immigrants
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I think people think if they do that it would not look pc to others. People are afraid of look bad,and afraid of what others think. They also think it's some one elsa job to teach these thing to their own childen and not be reasonable for these qualities to be instilled in them by thier own examples
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SGT Don Matyja, I hope that people can get beyond that. I'm not afraid of looking bad because of teaching my son what I think he should be taught. To love his country, to respect his elders, to stand up for what he believes in, to understand the sacrifices made to accomplish the building of this nation.
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There's a lot of things that future generations are failing to be educated on, by family.
In Kansas, they are trying to work in things like responsibility for employment and timliness. The things a parent should be teaching their children to prepare them from the real world after school. And that's a disgusting thought for me.
In Kansas, they are trying to work in things like responsibility for employment and timliness. The things a parent should be teaching their children to prepare them from the real world after school. And that's a disgusting thought for me.
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When did this become an option? I don't think it is too much to ask that American Citizens stand up and recite the pledge of allegiance.
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SSG Melvin Nulph
I'm with you, but as a US Citizen, they should not have to be asked. If they can get assistance for all the things they do, they should be responsible enough to know & not be asked. The ones that chose not to say ,"under God", can say the rest but do not ask others to not do something because you do not believe, & if they do not believe in the country,they should go to one they do believe in, or just get lost?
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Why, exactly? It was adopted to root out dissenting opinions in the 50s. It has absolutely nothing to do with love of the U.S. and everything to do with the Red Scare.
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