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This is the second article I have seen where real Soldiers were harassed as being stolen valor. Yes this Soldier is ate up, but at what point do you start making yourself and the service you represent look worse?
Another article had a female retiring and they harassed her on her Facebook page until she posted her DD214.
How far is too far? Are we just making it worse?
Another article had a female retiring and they harassed her on her Facebook page until she posted her DD214.
How far is too far? Are we just making it worse?
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Stolen Valor
Stolen Valor
Posted 9 y ago
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We need to be careful when confronting, make sure the individual is not a service member.
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SCPO David Lockwood how do we do that? I like the CAC idea, show me yours after I show mine. But in this case the Soldier did not have his.
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SCPO David Lockwood
That's a tough thing to do. But we need to make every effort to make sure we are not accusing an innocent person. Bottom line is if you can't prove it leave them alone and contact the authorities. I am sick of this Stolen Valor as much as everyone else is.
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The LCPL was overcome with emotion to the point of his hands trembling so much it came through in the video. The buddy that was with him (Army guy talking Army regulations) did not have his six as he should have helped the LCPL break contact.
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SSG Samuel Sohm
Agreed on both counts, professionalism is key in any situation. How does this make us look better?
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SGT (Join to see) What will eventually happen is, one of these days, they're gonna confront the wrong (real) vet, PTSD or other mental issue kicks in, and someone is gonna get hurt, or worse. This is not "if", but "when", and no one will be there to step in... I don't think a lot of our AD/Ret personnel, for whatever the reason, are even thinking on this level when they approach someone and it's gonna cost them. If you don't have the people skills to approach someone in a respectable manner, or can take into consideration that this individual may be having a mental issue, then they really need to BTFU and get someone who can!!! Just my 2 cents worth, as I often wonder how I would respond if I'm cornered like I've seen some of the guys end up being...
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I am glad too. MSgt Curtis Ellis After spending almost 2 years in WTU trying to gain my health back after a really bad tour, I just want to be able to finish my 20, and live the rest of my life in peace.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
SSG (Join to see) - I think that's what most of us want... Fortunately, I have retired already, but still wear my uniform occasionally in VFW functions, etc... And I'd be lying if I said the thought never entered my mind...
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
SSG (Join to see) - Having to defend me to some overzealous overbearing "hero" trying to make a name for themselves by "discovering stolen valor", as well as what frame of mind will I be in if/when it happens...
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I think that SFC was in the right. SPC was all ate up and out of uniform (no CAC) - and having an attitude. If SPC really is still a soldier, he needs to be handled. Everything he said was wrong... showing all kinds of paperwork and dog tags, things that anyone can have. Again, if SPC is still on the books I hope his Chain of Command was shown this video and dealt with accordingly.
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At least pull him off to the side if possible as to not make a scene. When these situations happen, people are so focused about posting videos that they loose their own bearing and professionalism. I do believe the soldier is ate up but could of gone about this a different way.
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I would commend the SFC for trying to accomplish his duty. The "ate up" soldier needs to be "ate up" by his First Shirt. However, we do go to far.
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I believe it is case by case and Veterans have to remain alert, this is our fight.
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I have witnessed "Stolen Valor" for over 40 years ---some of it concerning embellishment of service,some involving the wearing of a certain uniform or patches and other distinctive service awards.In my personal opinion it just makes the person doing it as an idiot and should just be ignored by any of us,but if the person is using it for personal gain,that person should be reported to authorities and investigated by them and dealt with,but not confronted by us. We are professionals.
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