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At my last duty station, I was told that if I was in a group, only one person is required to salute an officer. If everyone did it, fine, but only one person is required. Now at my new unit, EVERYONE salutes. Which is right? Am I wrong for not saluting? Don't get me wrong: I'll salute even if I'm in civilians. These officers worked to earn their rank in my opinion. I just want clarification on the matter.
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a. In Formation. Individuals in formation do not salute or return salutes except at the command Present, ARMS. The individual in charge salutes and acknowledges salutes for the entire formation. Commanders of organizations or detachments that are not a part of a larger formation salute officers of higher grade by bringing the organization or detachment to attention before saluting. When in the field under battle or simulated battle conditions, the organization or detachment is not brought to attention. An individual in formation at ease or at rest comes to attention when addressed by an officer.
b. Not in Formation. On the approach of an officer, a group of individuals not in formation is called to attention by the first person noticing the officer, and all come sharply to attention and salute. Individuals participating in games, and members of work details, do not salute. The individual in charge of a work detail, if not actively engaged, salutes and acknowledges salutes for the entire detail. A unit resting alongside a road does not come to attention upon the approach of an officer; however, if the officer addresses an individual (or group), the individual (or group) comes to attention and remains at attention (unless otherwise ordered) until the termination of the conversation, at which time the individual (or group) salutes the officer.
b. Not in Formation. On the approach of an officer, a group of individuals not in formation is called to attention by the first person noticing the officer, and all come sharply to attention and salute. Individuals participating in games, and members of work details, do not salute. The individual in charge of a work detail, if not actively engaged, salutes and acknowledges salutes for the entire detail. A unit resting alongside a road does not come to attention upon the approach of an officer; however, if the officer addresses an individual (or group), the individual (or group) comes to attention and remains at attention (unless otherwise ordered) until the termination of the conversation, at which time the individual (or group) salutes the officer.
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SGT (Join to see)
Correct me if I am wrong, being as I am a SPC who hasn't been in more than a day or two, but, if a group of more than two soldiers is going somewhere, should they not be formed up and marching instead of walking around in a gaggle?
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CW4 John Beebe, BS, DML
SFC(P) Gilley, You nailed it. Your source was TC 3-21.5 Appendix A, page A-2.
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SGT (Join to see)
I looked up AR 600-25 Dated year 2004. and FM 7-21.13 and neither say while in a group; you are required to all salute. Please show me
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I remember being instructed that only the highest ranking individual within a group should be in charge of the salute while all others remain at the position of attention.
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While in formation, except when ordered "Present Arms", only the designated leader (commanders, platoon leaders, squad leaders, etc) should salute. When marching, only the designated leader salutes, while the formation looks to the right when ordered "Eyes Right". When approached by an officer and you are alone, you are required to salute.
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As a Spc. this is definitely something that you should know, and "should have" learned in either basic or AIT. Eh, well at least you came here and asked, but what are your NCO's teaching you? This could very well be a question that is asked when you go before the board for your E-5. Sad to say, but there are too many pay grades and not enough NCO's lately in this "new" Army, imho.
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SPC Daniel Edwards
the problem is that everything i have been told at my last unit is being totally flipped around at this unit im currently at. i cant get people to give me one unified answer
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SPC Chicquila Cox
Yea, your last unit was apparently really ate up lol. At least you're looking for guidance on your own, which you shouldn't have to do, but is commendable in itself nonetheless. Good luck to you. :)
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I’ve only just entered the military but Most of my friends and loved ones are military and from talking to them it seems as if they have little respect for the officers of this generation simply because they earned their rank by graduating college and then entering as a officer so Personally i wouldn't salute those particular officers bc well lets face it.. they didn't earn shit but as you said an officer thats actually served and earned and worked toward that rank then yes I try to always salute those officers, my brother says he never salute if in a group! Since im new i was wondering and asked my military OG’s if army personnel have to salute marines or navy officers He said yes so in my head im thinking okay so now to add to the stress of getting my own branches ranks and insignias down.. i have to memorize the other branches as wel just to salute an officer of a different branch? Fuck my life
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Anyone know the reg being referenced. I have looked up AR 600-25. And FM 7-2.13 I believe it is. And I cannot find where it says every one must stop and salute in a group. Thanks
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