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I keep reading about how angry I'm supposed to be as an Iraqi Vet that were not going back to stop the attacks by ISIS in Iraq.
The media says I feel betrayed and think we need to go back in to restore what we established to honor those we lost.
Truth be told I think we all knew this was coming when we left and it was only a matter of time. Should I be angry about this?
The media says I feel betrayed and think we need to go back in to restore what we established to honor those we lost.
Truth be told I think we all knew this was coming when we left and it was only a matter of time. Should I be angry about this?
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Just like the housing market crash, there were people predicting this outcome for years in advance. Unfortunately, the smartest people are neither the most vocal nor the most listened to.
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CPT Zachary Brooks
I've been saying that the country would have issues again after we pulled out of there. I was thinking more so five to ten years though...
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PV2 Abbott Shaull
Well the writing was on the wall, when do very little to bring a divided Nation together, and then put a band-aid on it. Unfortunately, the people who should of been listen to the smartest people who kept trying to tell the truth, would not listen, because it didn't fit into their own agenda. Not only talking about President Obama, but President Bush too. Also what happens when you trying to rebuild two Countries using the same basic blueprint, when both have vast different needs and issues on the ground, that need to be dealt with.
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SFC Parker, I do not feel angry that there is yet another Civil War in Iraq. I think that our presence there was the only think that kept peace for a short time there after we ousted Saddam Hussein. Did we really need to oust him, probably. But that was not the call of the Armed Forces, we answered the call of the President and went in.
Is it smart to render assistance to the current government of the Country? Probably not, but once again that is not our decision. Our C-I-C may decide to send in troops after saying we needed to get out as soon as possible and forcing a withdrawal long before the country was stable (if it will ever be stable). Right now he is saying no troops, but... (I know a lot of people who were "not" in Viet Nam prior to our official arrival there either.)
Is it smart to render assistance to the current government of the Country? Probably not, but once again that is not our decision. Our C-I-C may decide to send in troops after saying we needed to get out as soon as possible and forcing a withdrawal long before the country was stable (if it will ever be stable). Right now he is saying no troops, but... (I know a lot of people who were "not" in Viet Nam prior to our official arrival there either.)
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CPL Jay Freeman
I know im a lil late getting to the conversation but we should have never left we should have stayed and finshed what was started and now if we do go back are we going to be welcomed? going in and having what few Iraq people who wanted us there and leaving before any real signs of stability was dumb on the presidents part I worry that it will be much much worse if we go back and with the president saying he is going to cut back the size of a deploying force will make the job much harder
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CMDCM Gene Treants
CPL Jay Freeman With The rise of ISIS we sure do have the benefit of knowing that withdrawal was never the correct thing to do. The conflict in the region AND the current state of the country only goes to underscore how much we need to be there to help stabilize not just the country, but the region. Of course that does not play into our fearless leader's promise, does it?
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CPL Jay Freeman
nope not at all MCPO Gene Treants Hin sight being 20 20 and having been in Iraq and talking with the people this just all sucks having lost friends over there and knowing how hard the fight was to win hearts and minds and do so much work to watch it all be washed away it is like building a sand castle at low tide and watching helplessly as the tide comes in anyways it is what it is and we will see what the future shall hold for our Military I read some where he is planning on down sizing the amount of troops being deployed on the ground I wonder how much more this will cripple are ability to do our Job
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PV2 Abbott Shaull
Sigh, well look at this way. While we have been on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have let both Iran and North Korea, make repeated threats similar to the ones that got Iraq invaded the second time around. So I wonder how much more this will cripple the ability to do the Job the Military is committed to do. Next thing we aren't the only Nation in NATO or any of the other alliances that the U.S. belongs too. Just take a look at NATO overall, in general if someone was to decide to mobilize their ground forces and have them head West. With how many troops he has been able to mobilized just for the situation in the Ukraine, it nothing to really down play. We don't have the troops to booster NATO defense, and NATO doesn't have the troops needed for a unified defense of well organized attack coming across the entire western border of Russia. Russia does have those resource to move West, given enough time to mobilize them, and can train them far enough from the western border where we wouldn't know what was happen until mere hours before the impending attack. The Russians and the Soviets before them, were excellent at learning valuable lessons in military tactics and strategies that help deceive their enemies and 'friends' alike.
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Angry? No. Surprised? Heck no. Saddened? Yes.
On Friday, I was on the CBS Morning radio show here in Pittsburgh to discussion this very topic. And yes, I'm saddened by the reaction of those members of the Iraqi "Army" that we spent time training. To hear about them casting aside their weapons and uniforms in fear of facing ISIS head on did make me sad. However, they did the same thing when they saw us coming.
We tried to give that country everything it could need to be successful. Spent over $2 TRILLION US Dollars to rebuild their infrastructure. Saw over 4000 Americans pay with their lives and many more injured. I think we can all agree that we knew that this sort of thing was possible when we left. ISIS knew that if it tried this sort of thing while we were, the result would be totally different so they planned, waited then moved in.
Like I said, we gave the country a chance, but just like the fact you can lead a horse to water, you can't force it to drink; we can set a country up to be successful but if that country is unwilling to do what it needs to do, then what more can we do?
On Friday, I was on the CBS Morning radio show here in Pittsburgh to discussion this very topic. And yes, I'm saddened by the reaction of those members of the Iraqi "Army" that we spent time training. To hear about them casting aside their weapons and uniforms in fear of facing ISIS head on did make me sad. However, they did the same thing when they saw us coming.
We tried to give that country everything it could need to be successful. Spent over $2 TRILLION US Dollars to rebuild their infrastructure. Saw over 4000 Americans pay with their lives and many more injured. I think we can all agree that we knew that this sort of thing was possible when we left. ISIS knew that if it tried this sort of thing while we were, the result would be totally different so they planned, waited then moved in.
Like I said, we gave the country a chance, but just like the fact you can lead a horse to water, you can't force it to drink; we can set a country up to be successful but if that country is unwilling to do what it needs to do, then what more can we do?
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