Posted on Dec 6, 2018
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Currently an MS2 with a 3.2 gpa and a 240 pt score. Not on scholarship or in the guard but looking to join or receive a scholarship. Cadre told me I would be competitive for a scholarship but if I don’t get it then it’s to late to sign up for SMP program (basic training summer date). Also if I do the guard/ complete basic and don’t get a contract then I’m stuck in guard. Should I go for scholarship or risk the guard. Asked cadre and he said I will have no problem contracting in future.
I’m asking this because our top rated MS3 just got declined a contract. If he got declined then why will they contract me junior year after basic
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Institute_of_Technology

Read about this, all warrants and commissioned, as well as, at least, senior USAF NCOs, are allowed to apply, the latter for their Ph.D.s, I saw a YouTube video on that, I'd wanted to go, I could never get it....
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CPT Brad Wilson
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I was a 4 year non scholarship ROTC Cadet (too old to get the scholarship) that was an SMP. Unless it’s changed you don’t have to go to basic to be an SMP. My junior year I decided to do it filled out the paperwork with ROTC joined the Guard and did it Took less than a month. If you fail or quit ROTC then your Guard contract comes into play and you go to the next available Basic Training. You also are not “stuck” in the Guard. Several of my soldiers after our deployments and some after Basic decided they wanted to go Active and did it The paper shuffle took a month or so but was fairly painless. If you decide to do SMP instead of the scholarship the advantage of going to Basic is number one the experience you get and you will also get the GI Bill The advantage of being an SMP in the Guard is many states offer free tuition books and fees to Guard members
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.omao.noaa.gov/topic/general/basic-officer-training-class-botc

If you want pure science, they also have one of the best diving programs, and use USPHS as well for clinical, and have a 5-yr. flight program, if you'd wanna try for it, NOAA Corps is something you might at least care to know about....
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https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=uscg%20direct%20commission%20program&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Look at these for USCG direct-commission, there's a page on here for PA, if you want clinical at all, USCG has their own, for everything else clinical, they use USPHS, normally....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.goarmy.com/army-cyber/cyber-direct-commissioning-program.html

Here's the Army direct-commission cyber version....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.dcmilitary.com/tester/news/local/navy-expands-cyber-warrant-program/article_41cd7fc9-2704-5598-b223-d640f085659c.html

If you've got any cyber inclinations, I'd noticed this some time back, Army has their own direct-commission OIS route, I'll send that, also, OK?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=part%20time%20ocs%20for%20state%20army%20national%20guard&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Read these on part-time state-level OCS programs for ARNG, they're NOT the main Army OCS at Ft. Benning, they're totally separate, I just didn't know if you'd known of them, the link should work, if not, just use Google, and search for part-time OCS for state Army National Guard, and you'll bring up all the links, OK? I don't know if all states and/or territories have them, also, I think ANG only uses ?USAF OTS, I don't think there are ANG part-time OCS programs, as there are for ARNG, WOCS, I think there's only the main one at Ft. Rucker, AL, where the rotary-wing training is done, at least so far as I know, OK?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/advance-your-career/warrant-officer/flight-warrant-officers.html

Obviously, you didn't say if you have any flight inclinations, plus, Army WOCS we actually had a family friend go through it, I gather it's a pretty rough program, he was Army enlisted, did Army WOCS, went rotary wing, then got his bachelors in aviation through Embry-Riddle Univ., Army released him, USCG picked him up, he finished out his 20 yrs. as a USCG O-3...if you have flight interests, this only needs, minimum, high school, I just didn't know if you'd know about it, or if you'd serious considered warrant at all, ARNG has a good many rotary wing units attached to it, I've noticed....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.usphs.gov/student/

Look esp. here at Jr. and Sr. COSTEP, the USPHS analogue to ROTC and USMC PLC...also, I've seen a good deal of material, incl. on here, that ROTCs, and, I "think" COSTEP, "possibly" also USMC PLC, can actually also be used for grad school, NOT solely undergrad, just food for thought, OK? They also have engineering at USPHS, as well as IT/comp sci (CS), for med admin informatics, though those might be full...however, if you have any clinical inclinations at all, trust me, you'll want to look at this...if you're at all inclined toward psych-related clinical, whether RN, NP, PA, MSW, LCSW, what have you, USPHS also has agreements with the other svc clinicals for 3-yr stabilized tours with them, as the other svcs are apparently quite short on psych-related clinical staff...once again, just food for thought, OK?
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