Posted on Sep 4, 2014
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At what rank should soldiers be exempt from organized pt
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SFC Steven Borders
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I for one do PT on my own. Our section does not have organized PT. I pass my PT test every time. We have one every 6 months. No, I am not a PT stud but I don't feel I need to be. As long as I meet the standards and pass my height and weight.

The thing is you have to have the drive to do it. I run three days out of the week, and other two are for push-ups and sit-ups.

I never liked unit PT, as all we did was run and run some more. I want to save my knees and pounding that pavement really wears on the body. I already have arthritis in one knee.

Back to the subject though, I know a lot of services members though that would not have the will to do PT on their own. So I see why it is done.
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SSG Maurice P.
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there is no better sound in this world than an in shape and motiviated Marine Corps Platoon-Company or Battalion running organized Pt with a former drill instructor bellowing out cadence...........i miss it so much..........
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
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Civilian rank. We had a group SgtMaj put on remedial PT.
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TSgt Hh 60 G Maintainer
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It should not be a rank thing. It should be a performance thing.

If a Soldier consistently scores above 270 on his/her APFT and is consistently within AR 600-9, then the Soldier has shown that s/he is responsible enough to keep him/herself in shape IAW regulation.

Each person is different and requires different exercise (frequency, muscle groups, length of training, etc.) to maintain physical fitness. Those showing a history of compliance and responsibility should be given the freedom to continue to do what works for him/her.

You can use the "unit cohesiveness" argument, but for that to fly, then EVERYONE in the unit should be required to attend at the same time. Good luck with that!
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SFC Operations Sergeant
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Until every rank doesn't have fat Soldiers wearing it, never. Although those who would be lazy and shirk physical fitness will continue to do so regardless of their rank, and will continue to be fat until someone cares enough to take appropriate action. So I guess my logic is wrong, because no exemptions from organized PT still doesn't force those who need to do it to do it. Only those who do the right thing will be not doing the wrong thing. That is a head scratcher. What rank should Soldiers be exempt from vehicle inspections and safety briefs? Many don't do either because they are high food chainers, but at the end of the day there are plenty of SFC and above getting DUI's and wrecking their cars with no insurance and faulty brake lights... There will always be rules and exeptions to rules and no matter the policies there will always be assholes who do the wrong thing.
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CPT Kit Lancaster
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Never. War fighting is a team event with all members of the team needing to attain and sustain a level of physical fitness. As limited, stupid and painful as organized PT can be from time to time, it serves a good purpose.
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TSgt Hh 60 G Maintainer
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Sir:

But not ALL members of the team are always present for unit PT.
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SFC Bde Mobility Nco
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Good question,
As a senior NCO i could care less if my 1SG or CSM do PT. Same goes for my Squadron commander. As long as they particpate in the troop and/or squadron runs. Besides that i dont see why a 1SG, CSM, or LTC couldnt be exempt.
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SGT 947th Forward Surgical Team Unit Administrator
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I believe that no SM should be exempt from PT except when they're on profile or the SM can score at least 280 on their APFT.

Physical Training is part of the Army and soldiers exempting themselves gives bad examples thus making bad leaders. How would you expect to survive if the soldier next to you can't even run two miles?
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SGT 94 E Radio Comsec Repairer
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SGT Coronel,

You're right, but the question was in regard to "organized" PT, not PT in general. All SMs must do PT daily, but at what point should they be allowed to do PT on their own?
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SFC Operations Sergeant
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A high score should never exempt a Soldier from organized PT. If that is the case, what stellar example of physical fitness is being nominated to lead organizational PT events.
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1SG(P) 1st Sergeant
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Retirement.
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PO1 Master-at-Arms
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Ranks from organized PT? None. That defeats unity! Unless of course mission critical billets that need to be manned at that time
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SSgt Thomas A Tullis Jr
SSgt Thomas A Tullis Jr
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The only reason a service member should be exempt from PT is DEATH!
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SSG Pete Fleming
SSG Pete Fleming
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SSgt Thomas A Tullis Jr... That beats my answer of retired!
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SSG Eric Blue
SSG Eric Blue
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SSgt Thomas A Tullis Jr - I don't know about that. I heard stories about angels in the leaning rest, so death may not stop PT.
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SPC Mark Stevens
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You must be physically capable of carrying out the mission. PT goes beyond that by also building esprit de corps in the unit. Yes, I groused and dragged when I got up at 4:30 am for PT (especially when I was the guidon bearer!), but there was no denying the feeling of pride when the 5 mile run was over and we marched back to the assembly point belting out cadence.
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