Posted on Dec 16, 2015
Atheist Marine against "In God We Trust" on our Currency?
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Anonymous Minnesota "Marine" and atheist commences lawsuit to remove "In God We Trust" from our currency. Lawsuit commenced December 15, 2015. What do you think? Lawsuit is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwVkb6p7OhGicXg3Ym1JY3hfM3c/view
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TSgt Kerry Hardy said "Way to go Marine!!!"
I must respectfully disagree. The correct response should be:
"Time to go, Marine!!! General, under Honorable, is the best you can expect. Don't let the door hit your caboose on the way out."
His history is also incorrect.
"In God We Trust" was a motto added to the Two Cent Piece (also known as the Double Cent) in 1864. This was done in response to the horrendous bloodshed during the Civil War. Initially, the Motto was not well designed, and wore off too quickly. This variety is known as the "Large Motto." The redesigned motto put an upraised "rim" around the banner that held the Motto; this helped keep the Motto from being worn too quickly. For coins that are not in good enough shape to tell, look for a "twig" that connects the banner with the leaves. If you can find this "twig" then it is a Small Motto variety. If there is no "twig" (that is to say, leaves are actually touching the banner) then that is the Large Motto variety. The Large Motto variety is highly prized by collectors, especially in better conditions of wear (look for coins where all the words, especially the "WE", can be read).
The use of this Motto goes all the way back to Francis Scott Keys' Star Spangled Banner, in which he uses the term "In God Is Our Trust." (That exact phrasing was considered for the Two Cent Piece, but the shorter one was used due to space limitations on the coin.)
The Motto might well have worked. The Civil War ended in the very next year.
I must respectfully disagree. The correct response should be:
"Time to go, Marine!!! General, under Honorable, is the best you can expect. Don't let the door hit your caboose on the way out."
His history is also incorrect.
"In God We Trust" was a motto added to the Two Cent Piece (also known as the Double Cent) in 1864. This was done in response to the horrendous bloodshed during the Civil War. Initially, the Motto was not well designed, and wore off too quickly. This variety is known as the "Large Motto." The redesigned motto put an upraised "rim" around the banner that held the Motto; this helped keep the Motto from being worn too quickly. For coins that are not in good enough shape to tell, look for a "twig" that connects the banner with the leaves. If you can find this "twig" then it is a Small Motto variety. If there is no "twig" (that is to say, leaves are actually touching the banner) then that is the Large Motto variety. The Large Motto variety is highly prized by collectors, especially in better conditions of wear (look for coins where all the words, especially the "WE", can be read).
The use of this Motto goes all the way back to Francis Scott Keys' Star Spangled Banner, in which he uses the term "In God Is Our Trust." (That exact phrasing was considered for the Two Cent Piece, but the shorter one was used due to space limitations on the coin.)
The Motto might well have worked. The Civil War ended in the very next year.
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Get over it this country was founded on faith in God and we've been blessed because of it
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It wasn't on there on the first place and was added during the Red Scare of the fifties, in an attempt to associate communism and atheism because the Soviet Union claimed to be an officially atheist country. It's description against atheists, not all atheists are communists. It's also unconstitutional since in the enacting legislative argument it officially makes the US deist, which is against the establishment clause of the first amendment. Last time this was taken to the supreme court the judges claimed the case "didn't have standing", which is BS.
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Sgt Mathew Meyer, Rene de Carte talked about how he thought therefore he exists. An Atheist do not believe the concept of God.
In my opinion, when Christianity is represented as violating someone elses right not to have government promote God. Something exists.
If I believe a cartoon is reality most people would know that it is not. I would not be taken seriously.
If Athiests believe God is a fairy tale and does not exist. I am baffled as to why go to court for a fairy tale?
No. Christianity is under attack. We need to stand up for our right for freedom of religion and expression too.
Come on now!! Really?
In my opinion, when Christianity is represented as violating someone elses right not to have government promote God. Something exists.
If I believe a cartoon is reality most people would know that it is not. I would not be taken seriously.
If Athiests believe God is a fairy tale and does not exist. I am baffled as to why go to court for a fairy tale?
No. Christianity is under attack. We need to stand up for our right for freedom of religion and expression too.
Come on now!! Really?
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Within the complaint, plaintiffs status as a Marine is enumerated. It is irrelevant. This is an attempt to bolster his credibility. The last thing the United States needs is a political military. Ask any one who lives in a country that is or was a military dictatorship. It is no different than using the Marine Corps to sell cookies or furniture. If you want to pick a fight and invoke Marine Corps credibility have the moral courage to use your name. I want to find you and correct you not for your views on church and state, but for your theft of Marine Corps credibility.
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What paragraph and line number in the Constitution is the phrase "separation of church and state"?
What paragraph and line number guarantees us freedom from seeing things that offend us or that we disagree with?
Does banning religious expression from the public square constitute a government endorsement of atheism as the official state religion?
What paragraph and line number guarantees us freedom from seeing things that offend us or that we disagree with?
Does banning religious expression from the public square constitute a government endorsement of atheism as the official state religion?
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Maj John Bell
SPC Jane Daino - There is no such thing as the Jefferson Establishment Clause:
1) Nowhere in the text of the Constitution is there the phrase "Separation of Church and State." That phrase is in Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, dated January 1, 1802. The Constitution was ratified by the ninth state, New Hampshire, on June 21, 1988. It became effective March 4, 1789, almost 13 years before Jefferson penned the phrase "Separation of Church and State.
From the Jefferson Letter to the Danbury Association.
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
The Jefferson letter to the Danbury Association is not a founding document. It is a letter.
2) Madison wrote the draft of the Constitution. Jefferson was on a diplomatic mission to France, while the Constitution was being written.
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I have no idea what you are responding to with "The Free Exercise Clause" or
If it is in sequence the Free Exercise Clause makes no guarantee and grants no right that you will not see or hear things that offend you.
I don't even know what your point is with "First Amendment."
1) Nowhere in the text of the Constitution is there the phrase "Separation of Church and State." That phrase is in Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, dated January 1, 1802. The Constitution was ratified by the ninth state, New Hampshire, on June 21, 1988. It became effective March 4, 1789, almost 13 years before Jefferson penned the phrase "Separation of Church and State.
From the Jefferson Letter to the Danbury Association.
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
The Jefferson letter to the Danbury Association is not a founding document. It is a letter.
2) Madison wrote the draft of the Constitution. Jefferson was on a diplomatic mission to France, while the Constitution was being written.
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I have no idea what you are responding to with "The Free Exercise Clause" or
If it is in sequence the Free Exercise Clause makes no guarantee and grants no right that you will not see or hear things that offend you.
I don't even know what your point is with "First Amendment."
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The last thing we need is politicized armed forces. This individual has a right to pursue this course. But if He/she is making a point of publicizing the fact that they are/were a Marine to give credibility to their argument it is wrong. They should be sought out and corrected. Their status as a Marine has no bearing one way or the other on their argument. Co-opting the Marine Corps, as if the Marine Corp sides one way or another is just slimy.
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Have we become so self-centered as a nation to where every little thing is offensive? As I see it, if you don't like it, don't look at it or use it. Having God on money is forcing someone to read about it? Come on people!! I guess that I will sue to have Hamilton's face removed from the $10 bill because I don't agree with his policies and he offends me.
Grow the f**k up and quit whining about every little thing. If you go through life whining and crying about your feelings being hurt, then you are in for a long and painful experience.
Grow the f**k up and quit whining about every little thing. If you go through life whining and crying about your feelings being hurt, then you are in for a long and painful experience.
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Our nation has decline due Tia lack of God in Our nation. A minority should not dictate to the majority.
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LTC (Join to see)
Our nation is in decline for many reasons, most of which having nothing to do with we as a people. It is most definitely NOT due to the decline of religion however, which is simply a byproduct of a better educated and more enlightened populace.
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LCpl Jesse Foust
Nor should a majority dictate the minority. We are not a pure democracy for that reason.
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Sorry but this lawsuit is petty for the sake of being petty. Is having "In God We Trust" on our currency such an egregious offense that it warrants a lawsuit to have it removed? This is another case of the tyranny of the minority that is ruining this nation. One person is offended by something so it must be censored and eliminated. I am pretty sure the majority of America could care less about this being on money so it is the few that are offended that feel things should change so as to not be offended.
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