Posted on Aug 5, 2014
Atheists Want Guard to Stop Bible Handouts. What is your opinion?
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If you do not believe in the BIBLE GOD JESUS etc do not take the BIBLE. Easy answer
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/08/05/atheists-want-guard-to-stop-bible-handouts.html?ESRC=eb.nl
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/08/05/atheists-want-guard-to-stop-bible-handouts.html?ESRC=eb.nl
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T0 Address the Majority of People on this theread,
It is not about distributing fancilful literarature it is about the the US government agency appearing to endorse this particular publication by having it openingly produced and distributed with governemnt funds. I should not have to pay for your entertainment literature that I don't want or need. And no higher ranking NCO or officer should be allowed to consider such a publication mandatory training and/or inventory. THAT is the Crux of the issue. The holiday "issue" is manufactured by some "right"wing leaning media. Atheist only object to nativiity scenes erected on government property.
It is not about distributing fancilful literarature it is about the the US government agency appearing to endorse this particular publication by having it openingly produced and distributed with governemnt funds. I should not have to pay for your entertainment literature that I don't want or need. And no higher ranking NCO or officer should be allowed to consider such a publication mandatory training and/or inventory. THAT is the Crux of the issue. The holiday "issue" is manufactured by some "right"wing leaning media. Atheist only object to nativiity scenes erected on government property.
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Atheists want no bible...
ISIS wants Quran...
if this offends any of them, tell them dont take the bible or dont join...
i know some atheists that are in that dont complain.
ISIS wants Quran...
if this offends any of them, tell them dont take the bible or dont join...
i know some atheists that are in that dont complain.
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PFC Stephens Clark
MSG Ibarra i could not agree more if they do not like it DO NOT join. PERIOD. I read my bible everyday I was in active Duty.
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This great nation has given up to much in the pursuit of "political correctness". Here is my view:
If you don't want a Bible don't take one
If you don't want to marry a man then don't
If you don't believe in abortion don't get one
If you don't like the military don't join
The truest statement I have ever read and I quote "You telling someone they can't have a gay marriage because of your religion is like me telling you that you cannot eat a cookie because I am on a diet."
People as a whole need to step back and quit worrying if they are going to piss off someone based off of what they say or what they believe. I am sure this post will piss some people off but hey what can I say it is what it is.
Always remember "It's better to be pissed off than pissed on."
If you don't want a Bible don't take one
If you don't want to marry a man then don't
If you don't believe in abortion don't get one
If you don't like the military don't join
The truest statement I have ever read and I quote "You telling someone they can't have a gay marriage because of your religion is like me telling you that you cannot eat a cookie because I am on a diet."
People as a whole need to step back and quit worrying if they are going to piss off someone based off of what they say or what they believe. I am sure this post will piss some people off but hey what can I say it is what it is.
Always remember "It's better to be pissed off than pissed on."
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As a Christain you should never push it on anyone. People as a whole have a choice on what they believe. Bibles have been handed out I know since ww1 to troops. America was based on Christian principles, that is why Bibles are handed out to this day,though Obama tells the world that America is not a Christain nation. People from other nations have come to America from day one. We are a people from around the world,but our foundation as a whole is Christainity. Bibles are offered to troops not forced. I do not see the problem.
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In the interest of consistency, if there has been any effort towards "Separation of Church and State", then I would think it would stop. Those who are truly such great religious practitioners of their religion should already have their religious materials.
By the way, if the Guard is supplying them...who is paying for them? Is this really somehow attached to the FedGov military budget? SMH.
By the way, if the Guard is supplying them...who is paying for them? Is this really somehow attached to the FedGov military budget? SMH.
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LTC (Join to see)
Often referenced, "Separation of Church and State" I don't think applies here, and I think it is commonly referenced incorrectly. The government is not explicitly sponsoring one religion against others -- the services work very hard to be accommodating to as many religions as one can imagine (in my opinion). But this is about what one group (this atheist organization) DOESN"T want another religion to do. Let it go.
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
Again, I have no problem with various literature being available to me in a location where should I desire them, I can go get them.
But its different when other people are actively passing them around...because they usually don't simply offer a book, they generally also want some conversation about it also. Sometimes we aren't always in the mood, or have the time, to stop and entertain this. Or when someone initially declines the offer, those who are handing it out can't just take a "No, Thank You" and go on about their day. Instead they will often start trying to convince you of how much you need it. I should feel completely OK by politely declining, and if they do not respond to my first decline, to tell them Listen here, I mean no disrespect, but whatever swirls through my own head about my religion (or lack of) is nobody's business but mine and whomever I choose to share it with. But you know people on the receiving end of that won't just politely back off. In fact suddenly I'm perceived as some kind of asshole when I am merely protecting my own privacy and time.
Its not necessarily the literature I have issue with...but I do not support military's role in the exchange of said literature.
But its different when other people are actively passing them around...because they usually don't simply offer a book, they generally also want some conversation about it also. Sometimes we aren't always in the mood, or have the time, to stop and entertain this. Or when someone initially declines the offer, those who are handing it out can't just take a "No, Thank You" and go on about their day. Instead they will often start trying to convince you of how much you need it. I should feel completely OK by politely declining, and if they do not respond to my first decline, to tell them Listen here, I mean no disrespect, but whatever swirls through my own head about my religion (or lack of) is nobody's business but mine and whomever I choose to share it with. But you know people on the receiving end of that won't just politely back off. In fact suddenly I'm perceived as some kind of asshole when I am merely protecting my own privacy and time.
Its not necessarily the literature I have issue with...but I do not support military's role in the exchange of said literature.
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In the spirit of "Separation between Church and State," I believe it should be either all the way or not at all. If Taxpayer Funds are used to buy and Distribute Bibles throughout the World, then Everything from the Book of Mormon to a Satan Worshiper's Guide should be as well.
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Just because they are being handed out, doesn't mean anyone has to accept one, it's not like anyone is going to lop off their head
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Well if you don't believe don't accept it, they give out other books as well.
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Not No but Hell No! The military, like anyone else should not be kowtowing to any one group or organization. What about the rights of others who would not mind being offered a Bible or Torah.
There is nothing wrong with a holy book of anyone's faith being available for the taking. If a book or publication is offered the person has the right to say no, and have that wish respected. Why does any one group (in this case Atheists) think they have the right so set standards that I as a Catholic have to follow?
There is nothing wrong with a holy book of anyone's faith being available for the taking. If a book or publication is offered the person has the right to say no, and have that wish respected. Why does any one group (in this case Atheists) think they have the right so set standards that I as a Catholic have to follow?
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