Posted on Sep 23, 2016
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The shootings of black men nationwide has been a tragedy.
Rioting and destorying cities like in Watts in 1965, Chicago in 1968, Los Angeles in 1991 and now Baltimore and Charollete. Which city is next?
Many don't have insurance and some insurances don't cover war or riot.
Why can't they protest with non-violence like Dr. King and Ghandi did?
I grew up listening to Public Enemy. I empathize but violence with violence is wrong!
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COL Lee Flemming
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"They, them, reparations, slaves"...it is hard to add value to this discussion because of the callous and imprecise nature of the comments and question. The violence is absolutely unacceptable...the protests are not.
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Sir I apologize if my question was callous to you and others here on RP.

I was not intending to be offensive and I am just trying to ask for peaceful protests.
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COL Lee Flemming
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LTC (Join to see) - the premise of the question is fine, it is your use of "they" as if only AAs are protesting and that you are on a site (RP) where only non-AAs will answer. That is why I used the word imprecise...

The callous piece applies to some of the comments.

In the end it is your question and prerogative to post what you want and no apology is necessary.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
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COL Lee Flemming - When I read it, I read the "they" as "people who are protesting" not as "African Americans"

It's hard to know what his intent was, but that's just how it read to me.
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First, lets be frank and say all violence and looting is wrong and not justified. Be advised, the peaceful protests of the 60s did not always end with a peaceful outcome. The intent of the peaceful marchers was always to influence the communities they were peacefully marching to effect change in those areas or to respond to an activity that had recently occurred. Which is similar to most of the protests of today --- obtain truth and justice for what recently occurred in their communities. The difference between the past and today is that social media provides an instant view to the activity on the ground. The beatings and water hoses used on the peaceful protesters of the 60s was only captured a few times by the media wherein now the moment an incident of violence occurs whether by the police against a bystander or a crowd mobilizing in the streets CNN, FOX, and every national media source are broadcasting at near real time.
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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You mean Black people can't protest being treated poorly the same way White people celebrate sports championships?
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CDR Kenneth Kaiser
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin - I agree and didn't mean to infer that it was limited to a specific racial group. My bigger concern is that it all seems to be part of this drive toward mediocrity. I am approaching the older than dirt category. While I was growing up we viewed success as a goal rather than an entitlement. Now it seems we are becoming a society of victims. Nobody is responsible for their actions or status in life. I remember in a "Dilbert" cartoon one of the characters said that they "were tired of always struggling of always being given the drudge work. They wanted Dilbert to teach them to be an engineer and they didn't care if it took six weeks." I am not suggesting that everyone become an engineer but rather that if you want your life to change you have to make an effort and assume responsibility for the outcome. As we used to say. "You pay your nickel and you take your chance" Now success is vilified and waiting for someone to give the fruits of success is glorified. We have to veer away from that if we are to survive.
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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CDR Kenneth Kaiser - There is something to be said about everyone's starting altitude (or is it elevation?) and equipment being equal in that climb to success.
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CDR Kenneth Kaiser
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Agree plus success is a relative term, sort of like old. I remember vaguely when old was 40. I am almost twice that now and still don't feel old. Likewise, I don't own a yacht or hotels or oil wells but I feel happy and satisfied, so I guess that could pass for success. What we must avoid is getting happy and satisfied too soon or relying on others to provide that to us.
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SPC Rudy Hawkins
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Here's something to think about....If it wasn't for "violent protest" the United States would still be under British rule !!!
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Then we should have lots of protests over silly carbon taxes.
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Colonists could not elect government officials to effect change, and they were not represented in government. Only when change by peaceful means is not possible, is violence justified.
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