Posted on Feb 11, 2022
Can a corporal in a team leader position have me do corrective action (“smoke” me)? And was I wrong to tell him to eat a bag of dicks?
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We just got a new Corporal who recently reclassed to mortars. He’s highly motivated (hooah), and during a training event, we had a disagreement over how to perform large deflections. He told me to "drop," but the fire mission he was calling would’ve put us outside the safety fan during a live fire and could have potentially caused injuries to other elements participating in the exercise.
Now, I understand and respect his rank, but I’ve been a mortarman longer and currently serve as the Gun 2 gunner. The fact is—he was wrong. He just became an 11C, and when he wouldn’t listen to correction or reason, I told him (admittedly out of frustration) to eat a bag of d***s.
I’m curious to hear what others think—especially when it comes to situations where rank clashes with experience and safety is on the line.
Now, I understand and respect his rank, but I’ve been a mortarman longer and currently serve as the Gun 2 gunner. The fact is—he was wrong. He just became an 11C, and when he wouldn’t listen to correction or reason, I told him (admittedly out of frustration) to eat a bag of d***s.
I’m curious to hear what others think—especially when it comes to situations where rank clashes with experience and safety is on the line.
CPL
Corporal
11C: Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
Edited 5 mo ago
Posted 4 y ago
Responses: 358
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You obviously dont know about customs and courtesies, the authority of an NCO or how to approach a person to diffuse a situation. You should be before the man getting some ucmj
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This is really AITA....
ESH.
Him for being wrong and not knowing or admitting it.
You, for doing what we all actually want to do.
Like others said, take it higher.
But if you think I'd support UCMJ action for this, you're nuts.
ESH.
Him for being wrong and not knowing or admitting it.
You, for doing what we all actually want to do.
Like others said, take it higher.
But if you think I'd support UCMJ action for this, you're nuts.
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Yes and yes.
If that Corporal wants to push UCMJ for disrespect, hope you got your bills in check.
If that Corporal wants to push UCMJ for disrespect, hope you got your bills in check.
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Was he wrong in approach, maybe I wasn't there. You were 100% wrong in your actions and maybe instead of telling him what you did you could have made it a learning moment.
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I like you did something similar to a Boot Cpl. in my section I had more time in service than lol. Yes You like I was in the wrong lol you know it too. Yes I got my ass chewed out by my Lt. and had to do shit duty for a week. You and I should have just Sucked it up then if we still had an issue go up the chain of command to handle it. Now if your case you might have been correct with your knowledge of the job and if you would have taken it to your Sgt and up I'm sure they would have taken your side and would have locked that Cpl on. Remember you were Right up till you told off your Cpl lol next time take it up the chain. I in the Marine Corps 91-95 with 3/5 lol.
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Man this sure isn't the Army of 64-67 for which I think none of you so called soldiers would have survived. Basically as I remember it anyone with so much as more lint on their sleeve out ranked you and as long as the order was legal you obeyed. Having said that what is the purpose of ordering pushups whcih a basic traing ploy. If you are in violation of orders for legal reasons it's first non judiciary punishment from extra duty to article 15 and on and upwards from there! God help us!
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This is a joke right? This guy thinks he's being funny right? If this guy represents the state of our Army today, we are in big trouble!
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Your wrong Period, I’m surprised you weren’t sent up the Chain for further Discipline, just because you have been in that MOS for a long time still doesn’t make how you behaved that day any less Disrespectful, you should check yourself and apologize, you have lost the respect of that Corporal
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A bag of dicks? Original but you should be standing before the CO, don,t bad mouth NCO,s you are lucky to be living in todays army,
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If I were your 1SG you would not have a dick to eat! WTH ate you maggots being taught!!!
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