Posted on Feb 11, 2022
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We just got this new corporal who re-classed to mortars and he’s super hooah and after a disagreement and how to perform large deflections he told me to drop now I know he is a corporal but I’ve been a mortar man longer and I am the gun 2 gunner and the fact is he was wrong after all he just became a mortar man 11c and for that reason I told him to eat a bag of dicks just want everyone’s opinion
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SFC Stay At Home Dad
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You told an NCO to go eat a bag of dicks and you wanna know if you were wrong? I don't care if you've been doing the job longer and know more. You were more wrong than a hooker in church trying to pass a $3.00 bill in the collection plate. Personally, you should have been recommended for UCMJ. Disrespect to an NCO, Article 91. And yes he can drop your ass for corrective training. Remember, he's the NCO and you are not. Next time this happens, take it to your Squad Leader instead of planting your head in your ass.
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PV2 Lonn Dugan
PV2 Lonn Dugan
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I don't know about Army, At least not in '78
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SFC Stay At Home Dad
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PV2 Lonn Dugan you listed yourself as an Army Vet with the rank of PV2 and 68D but you don't know Army?
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PV2 Lonn Dugan
PV2 Lonn Dugan
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Yes, I THINK I know Army regarding Lance Corporals. What I posted was leaving some room for doubt because my service was a long time ago and things may have changed.
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SFC Stay At Home Dad
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PV2 Lonn Dugan - US Army has never had Lance Corporal. That is strictly a Marine rank. No kidding there is some doubt about your service.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You were both wrong, but you do what your rank can handle. He was wrong to try to flex because he was insecure about being wrong. You were wrong in your response. He's trying to establish himself as the recognized leader in a section that's new to him. You could have changed that entire encounter by pulling him aside and showing him the TM or whatever reference in a way that let's him save face in front of his Joe's.
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SPC Kenneth Berry
SPC Kenneth Berry
4 mo
The point that needs to be made is who is in charge. there were two ways that this could have been handle. One by doing what he said and let him see he was wrong, which he would have then said why did you not correct him, or ask him for a side bar talk and break it down so he can see what you mean. Just because you both are E-4's, who is in charge and who has to take the flak for the mistake.
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1SG Ernest Stull
1SG Ernest Stull
3 mo
SPC. if you had used Respect and Tact to explain to the Cpl. that you would like to speak with him in private and explain to him by the book what is the right way to do the task. If you did not think that he would listen to you then with respect, you should have gone to your PSG. and explained the situation to him so he could retrain the CPL.
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CPT Kurk Harris
CPT Kurk Harris
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Correct answer SFC Boyd. Show respect, earn respect. Build the weak and you become part of something better.
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HN Chris Robinette
HN Chris Robinette
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CPL Thomas Kendra - E-4 mafia be damned. Swallow your pride and think of the UNIT first and how to make it hard as a rock.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Under Art 92, UCMJ, it is a violation if the SPC does not obey the order.
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SSG Leonard Cartwright
SSG Leonard Cartwright
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SFC Ralph Kelly UCMJ is a tool we sometimes unfortunately have to use but today's NCO need to look at the entire picture ,what wrong ,has he need been a good or bad solder ect ,I remember when I became a CORPORAL my quick fix was push up . What I am saying is leaders have been around their solider from two even five years he should be able to fix his problem from within he squad. And If that solider did do it in front of everyone he better fix it or loose what respect his squad has given him,that corporal last result to fix it is (close door counseling) lol or UCMJ.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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SSG Leonard Cartwright - Refused the easy way and "I told him to eat a bag of dicks." I would bet he would have done the same to you.
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PV2 Doug Woodin
PV2 Doug Woodin
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Sounds to me that the original poster got lucky that the Corporal isn't a dirty paper pushing snitch like the SFC here honestly. Only an embarrassing and insecure man would UCMJ over being told to eat a bag of dicks especially when they clearly are inexperienced. Learn to listen to lower enlisted you ain't always the subject expert. So glad I ETS'd.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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PV2 Doug Woodin - From your vast experience as an E-2?
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