Can a CSM deny orders for a leadership school such as BLC or ALC just because you don't get a 70 in each PT event?

Does anyone know if JSOC is going to lower the standard for people over 55 years old and walk with a can....can I still pass the PT test?

I had Marines require NCOs to sleep outside if they could not hit 90% on their PFT.....we had one CPL that was a fat boy and his shelter half was in the quad. He was kicked out shortly there after. Our unit had high standards.

What type of soldier strives to achieve just the bottom of the standard? Who would follow a leader who can just barely achieve the standards?

Maybe we should let the minimum paraformers be allowed to attend the school they desire. I think they should take an APFT at the school, and if they fail it, they pay for the TDY cost and flight cost. That is how you incentivize soldiers who have the goal of minimum standards. They pay$$$. Then they will tell you ready....and us taxpayers will not be paying for their low standards and silly games. If the soldier says they are ready....they can put their paycheck on the line. No Article 15, no trial, just a recovery of funds.

No you should be able to go. The only way I could see it being justified is if there are only a certain amount of slots for that month and you did not meet the cut based on unit criteria. However even in that situation you still have walk on's and an order of merit list that stacks all those able to go and as slots become available you will be slotted. That being said, I was once a part of a CSM brief that included all of his NCOs and he stated "how dare you add to the army standard when you don't enforce every regulation" at it was an argument that had to do with this subject and sending soldiers to leadership boards or the lack there of because they did not score a 250 or better. The army standard is there for a reason, its not a suggested starting point.

yes they can??

Quite often I see 60% in each event on the APFT touted as the Army "Standard", and that couldn't be further from the truth. The Army MINIMUM is 60 in each event. I've seen Soldiers sent home from NCOES schools for being a couple pushups shy of the minimum or a few seconds slow on the run. If you flirt with the minimums, your going to get burned - whether it's from jet lag, your body not adjusting to a different climate, or the grader doing it by the book.
From Montana, we incur very expensive travel costs to attend schools. With the limited budgets we have been dealing with, Units simply can't afford to have a Soldier waste a seat by failing something as simple as the APFT. The CSM would not be doing his job if he didn't put measures in place to ensure all Soldiers are able to exceed the course standards. If the CSM asks for 70, give him 80 and drive on.

CSM Bennett is all over it!

Yes I think a CSM can. We are not about the minimum we should always strive for a 300 +. Even if we don't make a 300 it should not be the minimum. You are in a very competive field. NCO's are the backbone

no, but you should want to do better. There is nothing worse than having someone over you who barely got by to make it to their position when you're busting your butt to get there. I've had leaders hold me to a higher pt standard than they held themselves too and it was sickening. I finally told him I respect his rank, and I would carry him off a battlefield if need be, but I'd rather he raised his personal fitness standard so I wouldn't have to. I had another leader who always outdid us and it was a competition to catch up to him, and we became the best squad. You should raise your personal standards to increase the effectiveness of your leadership. As a leader you need to be in front of 100% of your men not just 70%, and remember everything you do should be to make yourself a better warfighter.