Posted on Oct 7, 2018
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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The Army owns you until that contract expires.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Yes, and you will be returned at a minimum with enough time to do the mandatory ACAP events and clear.
My experience is:
Good leadership does not do that to good Soldiers.
Bad leadership is indifferent and looks at what is best for them personally.
Good leadership is indifferent to poor or marginal Soldiers wants and considers the units needs which may be counter to an individuals wants.
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SGM 1st Cav Div Command Career Counselor
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There is a MILPER Message that provides guidance to Commanders. Soldiers must be allow to return at least 90 days prior to their ETS in order to have enough time to transition out.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SGM (Join to see) I remember the message but not its specifics, seems to me it had a bit more detail and possibilities that it covered then just a flat 90 days.
By chance can you hunt that message up and post a link please.
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SGM 1st Cav Div Command Career Counselor
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I am looking for it, unfortunately the HRC webpage is not the most friendlier. More to follow SGM Erik Marquez
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SGM (Join to see) - There are only 15 pages of "active messages" I read all of those message titles that are active and unless they did some slight of hand in naming the message I did not spot anything in the Active messages dealing with ETS , schools and deployment.

All of the ones referencing ETS or school attendance and deployment I found in a search were no longer valid.
Im starting to think there is no current guidance. Might take an email to HRC and just ask...I can view stuff on HRC still, but do not think they will respond to my questions
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Can a person be deployed when they have less than a year left when they would return?
SGM Bill Frazer
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Yes, you can be involuntary extended, and not all deployments are 12 months long.
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1SG Vet Technician
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I don't see why having less then a year left would be a factor.
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I was just told that you need to start the soldier for life transition at 12 months out. Im just trying to not get the ass end of the stick when i come back. I was trying to study hvac on my way out. My buddy just started that and he said you have to start at a year out. Dont know how true that is though.
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SSG Trevor S.
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Yes.
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CPT Ray Gilmore
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Ha ha ha......

They own you until......

.....and it doesn't end when you ETS....

.....They can bring you back via IRR.

You are theirs until you are dead or damaged to a point of being useless to them.
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SPC Carson S.
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Of course they can! They stop-lossed me to send me on my second deployment, then tried to expedite my clearing from the unit and post when I got back; however, I made sure to use my terminal leave (45 days), so I was still getting paid while looking for a civilian job.
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SGT Charles Bartell
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Can you say Stop loss. It happens.
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SGT Johnny J Berru Jr
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Suck it up buttercup..handle it..your enlistment isnt over yet until discharge..as well if you havent met the requirements of the contract you signed..The government may extend you.
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