Posted on Apr 6, 2020
Can a squad leader make us come in on our days off for 0600 PT & 1600 Remedial PT?
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Hello! I was wondering if there is a regulation on the amount of hours of PT we can do for PT a week, as my Squad leader has all APFT failures do PT 3 times a day Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and 2 times a day Tuesday and Thursday, and 1 time Saturday with Sunday being the only "rest" time, I don't mean to sounds like a sh*t bag but I feel (along with the others in the group) that the excess amount of PT is causing more pain the helping, I failed my run by a minute and 8 Secs (Need a 15:54 got a 17:02) first diagnostic before all this PT I brought it down to a 16:04 then all the PT hit and I am going UP I went to a 16:32, then a 16:42, I feel a lot of pain and I want to bring this up to my Squad Leader but I'd like to have some type of Regulation or Command Policy that will back me up if possible, if they're is none, is there any advice on how I should go about making contact?
Edit: I see a lot of backlash, I just want to push that I am not trying to complain or anything like that, I am new to the Army and not sure exactly what is allowed and what isn't, as a private it's very nerve racking asking to speak to my squad leader. Thank you.
Edit: I see a lot of backlash, I just want to push that I am not trying to complain or anything like that, I am new to the Army and not sure exactly what is allowed and what isn't, as a private it's very nerve racking asking to speak to my squad leader. Thank you.
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you do what they say if dont like it dont join. Its temporary you have gills in you unit do they complain?
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I think Physical Training is just a waste of productive & costly time as a whole for all. Wither one can or can not pass their APFT program doesn't mean he/she can or can't do their job. As long as a service member maintains their height and weight to include BMI then should be exempt from the APFT. The ones whom can not maintain it, should be put on a Physical Fitness program. The Physical Fitness Program should be conducted by the Post / Base and on weekends & holidays so there is no Bias from individual commands. If your not retired yet and when you do retire you will start feeling 20+ years of Physical Torture that plays havoc on your Bones & Joints about 10 years after retirement. Some sooner, some later. Now back to your ?. If your squad leader orders you to come in on your days off for remedial PT then not only the squad Leader has to be there, so does the Platoon SGT and Platoon Leader.
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to me that seems a little excessive as far as the weekdays... maybe doing your regular morning pt and then after being released by your sections give it another go, just twice a day.. the body does need rest in order for it to build stamina and endurance. As far as the weekends... you get no pity from me.. 0700 or 0800 and then you're off for the rest of your weekend..
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It would be odd that a profession that relies on a member's physical fitness would limit the amount of time you can train for a physical fitness test.
The best remedy for getting out of the remedial program is to pass the run.
This takes me back to Basic. For some reason I developed a mental block and could only knock out 28 when I needed 42 to pass. But you keep doing them. By the time of the final PT test, the drill sergeants made us go to bed early after the mess hall. With that extra sleep, I passed with 42 pushups that day. Later, my top would be 75 in two minutes at Permanent Party.
But the more you run, the better you get. Run, Seabiscuit, Run!!!
The best remedy for getting out of the remedial program is to pass the run.
This takes me back to Basic. For some reason I developed a mental block and could only knock out 28 when I needed 42 to pass. But you keep doing them. By the time of the final PT test, the drill sergeants made us go to bed early after the mess hall. With that extra sleep, I passed with 42 pushups that day. Later, my top would be 75 in two minutes at Permanent Party.
But the more you run, the better you get. Run, Seabiscuit, Run!!!
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Old School Answer: oh hell yea!
In today’s Army, probably not...
just my two cents...
In today’s Army, probably not...
just my two cents...
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It sounds like you have a good squad leader... Remember that he is just trying to help you succeed. Since you have failed PT you are flagged and can not receive any favorable actions i.e., promotions or awards. It’s in your best interest to work hard and get physically fit. I saw this several times as a squad leader. A new soldier passed basic and ait gets to his unit, starts becoming complacent and fails PT. Once you pass the remedial PT goes bye bye.
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Physical fitness is a must on the battle field, best way to pass your APFT is not to be a follower but lead it. I speak from experance based on my time in active duty. Exercise is only good if you eat right as well. Salads everymeal is not eating right. Eating prtien is the best way but if not done right can bite you in the rear. I erdge you to google todays health foods and focus more on streching before you head to bed. One last bit of advice, talk to your sqad leader and ask them if they might have any tips. Your sqad leader is there to train, mentor and motivate you for improvement. No matter how much PT you do, you will only get as far as you willing to push yourself. Like one of my gunnery sgts use to say, you already have the tools to go far, but lack of passion and confidants. You will only go as far as you let yourself. Besides if you realy want them to back off just set a goal to out run them in the next APFT.
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You, and others, are in the PT program for a reason; failed to meet the standards. Your best course of action is to pass the APFT and get off the remedial program.
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You're on active duty? Silly, they own you 7 days a week if they want. Don't like weekend PT? Self-motivate, actually PT yourself, and have some discipline and you'll eventually do it. Leaders lead from the front, slackers hide behind regs.
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I commend your Squad Leader to ensure his soldiers are ready and able to fight. Complaining about him conducting remedial shows a lack of desire and motivation to push youself to be the best. The APFT is simple enough to pass.
My advice since your new is get away from the mafia, they wont help your career and take ownership of yourself. PT, weapons qual and basic soldier tasks are something you can excel at with some effort and motivation on your own.
My advice since your new is get away from the mafia, they wont help your career and take ownership of yourself. PT, weapons qual and basic soldier tasks are something you can excel at with some effort and motivation on your own.
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Hooah MSG! I will state this I wake up for 0600 PT every morning ready to fight, and get the day going, I do not complain unless it is serious, I refuse to go to the TMC (because in my opinion profiles show weakness) and not only do my hardest to motivate myself but my fellow battle buddies to the left and right of me. I embrace the succ everyday, and I do stay away from the mafia, matter of fact all the SPC here (except a few) dislike me due to me calling out their sh*tbaggery.
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