Posted on Jul 13, 2017
2LT Nicholas Certeza
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Posted in these groups: Legal 6 LeaveMilitary discharge 300x201 ETS/EASImgres Deployment
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CPL Any Jim
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Quick question for CPT Moss ? If SM is refused monthly counseling last 12 months in unit before ETS date? Since counselings and monthly counselings is used as an effective tool for Commanders to ensure that all members of their command recieve timely performance counseling. Can the SM terminal leave be approaved or is ETSing SM still at the mercy of commander and commander should still be able to use Army needs as reason for approval of transtion leave ....
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CPL Any Jim
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Of course a CPT would get thier leave approaved by an 0-6 or higher with in few days: well thats how Army works? Best advice i can give if an e-4 or below , is use 600-8-10, sell 60 days of leave and not even think , worry or fantasize about terminal leave. Just use you ETS date as final day date in service! An to be noted its not that officers are better treated : its that they signature counts & off work side by side , i.e. meetings where paperwork can get signed. E-4 or below you have to depend on nco as middelman : b/c thay signature is of no importance. Ask for terminal leave and could have an nco swear they can give you an article 15 and ruin you day : when actually all an nco can do is fudge article 15 paperwork & beg commander to sign off on his or her recomindation? When it is an nco task but instead nco chose best for morale is hostile environment & extra stress for commander and paper work from they busy schedule of running a company or battalion ....
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Question: what happens if they've already sold 30 days, or even 60? Does this force the hand of the commander or can the Commander in face force the Soldier to forfeit leave days that they've earned?
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CPL Any Jim
CPL Any Jim
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The best thing commander can do is deny transition leave in a timely manner! Were growns up, treat sm denying as an adult. Sm while drive on and be a solider that they have been before and after. Worst case commander can do is make no decesion and give Sm uncertainty. Transtion leave is like and award might take two or three x being looked at ! But deny transition leave and than commander will realize im deny a Sm transtion leave ' wow shows what kind of commander that person is ;( ! Than commander can fix accordinling & honor time honor tradition of etsing and give the transition process the integrity it deserves ...
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CPL Any Jim
CPL Any Jim
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I sold 60 days at ets, lost 30 days of use or lose days 19 days before my ets of oct 19, had a left over leave balance of 29 days after etsing.... & unit i was in it didnt bother them 1 bit! Thats just how the unit was ?
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CPL Any Jim
CPL Any Jim
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Depends if you at a brigade battilon or company ?
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SGT Anna Kleinschmidt
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Most of the time they will approve it. The only reason they may decide not to is if you are mission criticize and your replacement has not arrived or been trained.
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